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Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO.

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Date: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 7:14 am

Casey Schaufler wrote:
Why do people continue speaking symlinks and chroots?
To avoid the effect of symlinks and chroots, AppArmor and TOMOYO Linux
derive pathnames from dentry and vfsmount.
If /etc/passwd was a symlink, the derived pathname will be /home/smalley/heeheehee.
If accessed from inside a chroot, the derived pathname will be /roots/crispin/etc/passwd.

It is true that namespace may differ between processes,
but I think that that is the matter of how to restrict namespace manipulation operations.
As I said, a system can't survive if namespace is madly manipulated.
To keep the system workable, /bin/ must be the directory for binary programs,
/etc/ must be the directory for configuration files, and so on in all namespaces.

It is true that the pathname may change while traversing up the dentry/vfsmount trees.
But the change does not occur infinitely.
As I said, a system can't survive if files and directories are madly renamed.
The possible changes are bounded by the policy.

At least, I want people not to speak symlinks and chroots when talking about
AppArmor and TOMOYO Linux.

Regards.
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[TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Tetsuo Handa, (Fri Apr 4, 8:23 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Paul Moore, (Mon Apr 7, 11:40 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Toshiharu Harada, (Wed Apr 9, 4:37 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Serge E. Hallyn, (Wed Apr 9, 9:22 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Toshiharu Harada, (Thu Apr 10, 11:57 pm)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Matthew Wilcox, (Wed Apr 9, 9:11 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Tetsuo Handa, (Fri Apr 11, 10:12 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Matthew Wilcox, (Fri Apr 11, 10:30 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Crispin Cowan, (Sun Apr 13, 9:41 pm)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Matthew Wilcox, (Mon Apr 14, 9:48 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Crispin Cowan, (Mon Apr 14, 11:21 pm)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Serge E. Hallyn, (Sun Apr 13, 12:36 pm)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Crispin Cowan, (Sun Apr 13, 10:05 pm)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Toshiharu Harada, (Tue Apr 15, 9:00 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Stephen Smalley, (Mon Apr 14, 10:17 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Crispin Cowan, (Tue Apr 15, 12:59 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Stephen Smalley, (Wed Apr 16, 12:31 pm)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Crispin Cowan, (Thu Apr 17, 3:49 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Stephen Smalley, (Thu Apr 17, 8:42 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Jamie Lokier, (Thu Apr 17, 4:45 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Casey Schaufler, (Mon Apr 14, 1:05 pm)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Tetsuo Handa, (Tue Apr 15, 7:14 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Pavel Machek, (Wed Apr 16, 3:13 pm)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Tetsuo Handa, (Thu Apr 17, 7:58 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Pavel Machek, (Thu Apr 17, 1:46 pm)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Serge E. Hallyn, (Fri Apr 18, 9:21 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Casey Schaufler, (Tue Apr 15, 12:32 pm)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Crispin Cowan, (Thu Apr 17, 3:24 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Tetsuo Handa, (Sat Apr 12, 7:33 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Stephen Smalley, (Wed Apr 9, 9:26 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Stephen Smalley, (Wed Apr 9, 8:49 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Toshiharu Harada, (Thu Apr 10, 1:57 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Stephen Smalley, (Thu Apr 10, 8:51 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Toshiharu Harada, (Fri Apr 11, 7:48 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Casey Schaufler, (Mon Apr 7, 6:57 pm)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Daniel Walker, (Fri Apr 4, 12:29 pm)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Tetsuo Handa, (Mon Apr 7, 9:56 am)
Re: [TOMOYO #7 30/30] Hooks for SAKURA and TOMOYO., Daniel Walker, (Mon Apr 7, 11:39 am)
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