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Charles Hedrick
new SLIP header compression diffs; slipinfo program
I've put new header compression code on athos.rutgers.edu:/pub/linux. slhc.readme will give details. The code is in slhc.tar. It contains Van Jacobson header compression code, diffs to the original 0.99pl10 kernel to add the code, and also to fix various bugs and performance problems in TCP that caused me trouble in using SLIP. There's also a program for printing statistics from SLIP and the header compression code: slipinfo.tar.Z. This is based on code stolen from ps to read from /dev/kmem. It...
Jun 27, 6:58 pm 1993
John Henders
Re: P.McDonald, please read, was Re: Probs with UUCP
I agree with Vince on this. Better to have a shell function hidden in .bashrc for the curious to discover than to change it overall and teach someone to rely on non-standard behaviour. It's like the argument for using those rm replacements. If you get used to rm being safe, it's much easier to screw up. -- John Henders GO/MU/E d* -p+ c+++ l++ t- m* s/++ g+ w+++ -x+
Jun 27, 6:56 pm 1993
David Henry Fetter
ATI and X -- installation woes.
Howdy, NetFolk! I just installed (WHEW!) SLS's linux on my machine which has the following specs: Gateway 4DX2-66V with 1.44 and 1.2 floppies 405MB Western Digital IDE hard drive Gateway CrystalScan 1572 FS monitor ATI Local Bus Graphics Ultra Pro card for graphics Gateway's CD ROM drive Microsoft mouse on COM2 (aka. cua1?) When I ran ati.test.c, I got the following results, saying pretty much that the system recognized my card. ===========...
Jun 27, 6:45 pm 1993
Diversion (Jeff Rogers)
3-button mouse
A thousand pardons if this is a FAQ, but... How do I get my 3-button mouse to work as such under linux? (Esp. X?) The mouse-test program from X says it's a microsloth-compatible mouse, but that only gives me 2 buttons. I could use 'emulate3buttons' under X, but why, when I have a 3-button mouse? 'cat /dev/mouse' doesn't give me anything when the middle button is pressed. Any ideas? It works under ms-dos, but if that's all it's good for, I might as well get rid of it (which I'd really rather not...
Jun 27, 6:20 pm 1993
Vince Geisler
terminal programs
i am looking for a good terminal program for linux (better than minicom anyways) i am not running x11 so it would have to a stand alone program any suggestions as far as good programs and where i can obtain them would be greatly appreciated. vince ...
Jun 27, 6:09 pm 1993
Alphonse Trezza
Problems Compiling With GCC
I was wondering, I recently installed Linux from the most recent SLS packages I could get my hands on. I got all the right librarys but the problems I am having is that GCC, when I go to compile something (anything), I get a "internal compile error: signal 11" Anyone every have this problem? If so, did you solve it, because not being able to compile really limits me.... Thank! - Alphonse atrezza@mailer.cc.fsu.edu
Jun 27, 5:28 pm 1993
Glenn Farrow
TERM on RS6000
If anyone has managed to get term to run correctly under AIX could they please email me a patch for the TERM code. I have gotten term107 to compile fine under AIX, and it even runs. The problem is when I try to run clients from the AIX side, all clients lock up when they try to write to the xterm socket. Clients (trsh, etc) run fine from the Linux side, and they run fine from both ends when I connect to a Sun. (email me at gfarrow@unixg.ubc.ca).
Jun 27, 5:00 pm 1993
Christopher Lau
Xfree 1.2 Link Kit
Can anyone tell me where to find a useful copy of the Xfree 1.2 link kit? The copy on sunsite is missing serveral files, and doesn't include sources to the video drivers.. This basically makes it completely useless. Trying to copy the Xfree 1.3 link kit drivers just doesn't work.. Upgrading to Xfree 1.3 is *NOT* an option. c4 -- Christopher Lau | Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, The University of Calgary | not an engineer! Dept. of Electrical & Computer ...
Jun 27, 4:58 pm 1993
Warner Losh
Re: X Window Managers
Stephen, have you had a chance to take a look at the man pages that were included in the release? A good place to start would be OIIntro. The Technical Overview booklet for OI is a shortened version of the first chapter in the OI book. Warner -- Warner Losh imp@boulder.parcplace.COM ParcPlace Boulder I've almost finished my brute force solution to subtlety.
Jun 27, 4:33 pm 1993
Carsten Schiers
Re: Removing LILO
fdisk /mbr. CU Carsten. -- Carsten Schiers schiers@tpki.toppoint.de Lerchenfeld 9 2000 Hamburg 76
Jun 27, 4:04 pm 1993
Eric Dittman
Re: Where is SLIP?
When I installed inc-4.4.tar.z I couldn't compile the kernel (0.99pl10) any more. I'd get errors compiling the network code. I reinstalled the 4.3.3 include files and was able to build the kernel again. -- Eric Dittman Texas Instruments - Component Test Facility dittman@skitzo.dseg.ti.com (214) 480-7313 Disclaimer: Not even my opinions. I found them by the side of the road.
Jun 27, 3:53 pm 1993
Steve Pershing
Credit Card Charges (was re: SLS quarterly)
hays@ssd.intel.com (Kirk Hays) writes: => Not to be a party pooper, but the "4% surcharge" is a direct => violation of SLS's contract with the VISA/MC providers. => => Since SLS seems to be an ethical business, I hope they'll => discontinue this practice. There was a recent case in Canada wherein the cc issuers had to allow merchants to add the charge if they desired, without penalty. Old agreements, I believe, are now void. I don't think it is fair to make the merchant pay...
Jun 27, 3:36 pm 1993
Barzilai Spinak
ST-506 and IDE
I have a computer with a 80mb disk drive. It's an oldie Seagate 4096 and I think it uses the st-506 interface. I want to add an IDE drive. Can these two work together? Can Linux use both, the st-506 and the ide, at the same time? (one as hda and the other as hdb). What I would like to do is to leave DOS/Windows in the old disk and put Linux in the new one. Can LILO handle that? (I mean, boot from one or the other) +---------------------------------+ | Barzilai Spinak | | ........
Jun 27, 2:52 pm 1993
jim gustafson
Whereis my /bin/rm?
I installed the tsx-11.mit.edu SLS a1-a4 on my Gateway 2000 V66 LB, IDE, ATI During "doinstall", my VFS showed a "/zImage" but no "/root/Image" (as per the tail of the "doinstall" script). With "/zImage" on VFS, the "doinstall" script would fail to create a working bootdisk. The script also complained about a missing "/root/Image" during execution. So... from VFS, I "mv"ed my "/zImage" to /root/Image and then exec'd the "doinstall" scrip...
Jun 27, 2:46 pm 1993
Ed Carp
SCSI disk error?
Um, what does this mean? I thought SCSI disks couldn't HAVE I/O errors! If it's a real error, why didn't the drive remap it? How do I fix this? Dumping sense buffer: 112 0 4 0 21 48 24 4 0 0 SCSI disk error: host 0 id 0 lun 0 return code = 28000000 Sense class 7, sense error 0, extended sense 4 scsidisk I/O error dev 0808, sector 163846 -- Ed Carp erc@apple.com, erc@saturn.upl.com 510/659-9560 For anonymous mailers --> anonymus+5300@charcoal.com "I've met many t...
Jun 27, 2:45 pm 1993
Bill Newman
Re: Can Ctrl and CapsLock keys be exchanged on virtual conso...
I received replies from quale@spock.cs.wisc.edu tpm@netcom.com bde@halcyon.halcyon.com I will quote the reply from quale@spock.cs.wisc.edu; I followed the instructions there for 0.99pl9 and they worked nicely, although I hadn't anticipated waiting an hour or so for my machine (25 MHz 386 with 4 Mb RAM) to recompile the source. ====== (Message from quale follows.) ================================= You don't mention what kernel you are running, but in kernels before 0...
Jun 27, 2:24 pm 1993
KZUPAN
Re: X Window Managers
In article <MUTS.93Jun26103054@muts.hacktic.nl> I suppose you think that they should use nothing instead. Or I guess everybody including those of us who don't like it can go out and pay $300 for motif. ========================================================================= | L IIIII NN N U U X X Out to fix what Windog MS'd up!!! | | L I N N N U U X X | | L I N N N U U X Another Word From Kevin Zupan | |...
Jun 27, 2:07 pm 1993
John David Regehr
local-bus patches?
I recently installed Linux on a Gateway 2000 486/66 with a 340 Mb WD drive on the local bus. It seems to work correctly; e2fsck returns no errors, things compile correctly, X runs. However, while running the Byte Unix Benchmarks the filesystem read/write tests failed. Is this anything to worry about? I seem to remember seeing some sort of local bus patches at one of the linux FTP sites but I couldn't find anything when I looked just now. Since I'm thinking about getting one of these machine...
Jun 27, 1:50 pm 1993
Scott Dunn
Emacs 19.13.1 - doesn't work. For me that is.
I recently upgraded to SLS1.02, added GCC2.4.3 and XFree86-1.3 myself. Got the latest emacs from tsx-11. Installed emacs.bin.4.3.3 (numbering?) Certainly, it wasn't the *very* latest version for libs 4.4.1 (?) Works sort of on the console. Core dumps if I try to find a file (c-x c-f), start up when there's no file in directory, backspace beyond start of file, press ) when there's no opening bracket, startup in C-mode and seemingly random times thereafter. In X, I get the window frame to place,...
Jun 27, 1:36 pm 1993
Martin Lucina
SLIP installation guide
Hi, all! O.K. - I've managed to set up a SLIP connection, so I'm going to try to describe an "easy" installation process. To install a slip connection you need an ordinary NULL-modem cable - 3 wires (RX,TX,GND) will do. You also need the dip program written by FvK. You can find it in the net-std stuff. By the time you read this you should know enough to setup a static SLIP connaction. If you want dialup connections read this doc & then have a look at the man page to dip. This document assumes ...
Jun 27, 1:14 pm 1993
Brian Weaver
Strange X behavior
I just installed linux and X last week. I have an S3 card, so I had to install the S3 server/ect. Everything worked the first time I ran it, and from reading on here, I think I should feel lucky. Anyway, when I bring up the main menu, nothing appears in it untill I drag down over the words, anyone else notice this? MY friend who runs Xfree says his does the same thing. Is this just a bug, or something I can fix on my end? -- Brian Weaver University of Colorado at Boulder...
Jun 27, 1:12 pm 1993
swolfson
Help: "Properties" don't auto-activate themselves
(I tried this over in Xi386 but didn't get much...) I'm having a problem with my "Properties" (olvwm, XFree386 1.2, .9pl10). I cannot seem to get what I set under "Properties" (props) to save correctly. I choose whatever I want and then "apply" it and it is saved to my $HOME/.Xdefaults. I "quit". I "openwin". My settings are not active! If I now "Properties" again, my settings are still there, but to get them to take effect, I have to "apply" again. Does anyone know how to fix this? I w...
Jun 27, 12:54 pm 1993
KZUPAN
re: Proposal: Top ten FAQ
In article <93177.141735K111114@ALIJKU11.BITNET> The idea is not to make a second COPY of the FAQ. It is to have something short and sweet that covers the problem of the week. This would be a great idea , With it cross-posted to news.answers and c.o.l(a) we might hit some of those "Well I just saw that thread but missed xxxxx" problems and some of the redundancies we see here on c.o.l.a. It just might work. ========================================================================= | L ...
Jun 27, 12:43 pm 1993
Vince Skahan
Re: list/alias file format for smail ?
comp.mail.uucp for one would be appropriate. comp.mail.elm would be another one. the smail mailing list would be another. comp.mail.sendmail might also work. both smail and sendmail+IDA can do this quite nicely. you need to use system and not elm aliases. #------------------ how to alias to a pipe ---------------------- # program_A: "|/usr/local/lib/program_a/programname parameter_one" # #------------------ how to alias a list that reads a file ----------- testlist: :include:/usr/local/li...
Jun 27, 12:29 pm 1993
Peter Mutsaers
Re: X Window Managers
On Sat, 26 Jun 1993 20:23:43 GMT, imp@boulder.parcplace.com (Warner Losh) said: WL> OI and a user interface builder ObjectBuilder are available at no cost WL> for Linux. OI has been developed over the past five years and is WL> quite a bit more robust than most other toolkits. I agree. I just received a free copy of it; it seems comparable to Interviews but more mature and better documented (which is one of the major problems with Interviews, and that already for years!). A proble...
Jun 27, 12:12 pm 1993
Brandon S. Allbery
Re: X Window Managers
We already have. Consider OSF/1.... ++Brandon -- Brandon S. Allbery kf8nh@kf8nh.ampr.org bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org It's not too late to turn back from the "Gates" of Hell... Linux: the free 32-bit operating system, available NOW. Why waaaaaait for NT?
Jun 27, 10:15 am 1993
Brandon S. Allbery
Re: P.McDonald, please read, was Re: Probs with UUCP
Agreed. I also disable history in bash. And in csh I set histchars to '^@' --- note that the @, being the substitution char, doesn't affect Internet addresses. It does mean a little more work typing regexps, though... I disagree with changing the history characters in the distribution: people who use them (who I must agree are a bit strange :-) expect !^ so they should be left that way. ++Brandon -- Brandon S. Allbery kf8nh@kf8nh.ampr.org bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org It's not ...
Jun 27, 10:04 am 1993
Steve Steinberg
Re: install inc-4.4.tar.z in /usr not /
As I'm about to install libc-4.4 I downloaded it from tsx and it was fine. When I saw your post I grabbed it from sunsite as well and the two compared (diffed) identically. Maybe you ascii'ed when you should Steve -- ===================================================================== = Steve Steinberg = ss@JH.Org -or- ss@panix.com = (718) 262-6996 = = Sure, come on down, but we're in Jamaica, NY, not the Carribean! = ===== THE SPACE BELOW LEFT INTENTIONALLY BLANK ...
Jun 27, 9:52 am 1993
Martin Lucina
net2 installation doc fixup
Oh, well - yeah - there had to be some mistakes... In your /etc/rc or the place where you se your hastname, change the command hostname [blablabla] to hostname -S (that's all) and put your hostname into the file /etc/HOSTNAME. Also - the binary for the program "route" (in /etc) that I got in the original net-base.tar.z is a bit creaky - it just wont do anything if you give it the command /etc/route add 0.0.0.0 gw [someaddr] I fixed this by recompiling it [route] - so if it doesn't work for you - ...
Jun 27, 9:14 am 1993
Martin Lucina
0.99 pl10 & net2 installation
Hi, fellow Linuxers! There have been so many people whining about net-2 & Kernel 0.99 pl10 that I've decided to write a kind-of "Guide" to installing net-2 & Kernel 0.99 pl10. NOTE: Don't look for anything about SLIP or PLIP in this article as I'm only just getting into that. What you need ============= a) A Machine Running Linux (0.99 pl10) b) The following files (Availble by FTP from tsx-11.mit.edu or nic.funet.fi) net-base.tar.z (24210 bytes) net-std.tar.z (5...
Jun 27, 9:02 am 1993
Linus Torvalds
Re: LINUX Scheduling
Cc: The linux scheduling algorithm is one of the simplest ones possible: what essentially happens is roughly: - every task gets a fixed number of ticks (100 Hz), defaulting to 15. At each clocktick the timer interrupt decreases the current task counter, and when the counter reaches zero, it sets the 'need_resched' flag. Note that this doesn't actually result in a task switch yet. - at every return to user mode, the low-level routines check the 'need_resched' flag, and c...
Jun 27, 8:19 am 1993
Gavin Hutchinson
Prolog for Linux
It says in the Linux FAQ that the Prolog language has been ported to Linux. I've had a look round most of the big sites (tsx-11 etc) but can't see anything that instantly hits me as being such a beastie. Could someone please point me in the right direction Thanks - Gavin
Jun 27, 8:17 am 1993
Jimmy Huang
Re: Help with LILO
And with this in mind, Tex documentation doesn't work very well when on line. It works good on paper though, but that's only if you know how to convert it to paper, haven't figured that one out yet. Request: person who maintains/distributes LILO convert that .tex file into something readable. For answer: other = /dev/hda1 label = msdos table = /dev/hda added to config should work if you boot off an IDE master drive.
Jun 27, 7:50 am 1993
Bill Riemers
Re: Help: FTPing files > maximum filesize
Thomas> uuencode and use split ... Thomas> % man split Thomas> SPLIT(1) USER COMMANDS SPLIT(1) Thomas> NAME Thomas> split - split a file into pieces Thomas> ... Excuse me, but just for future reference how does one uuencode and split durring anonymous ftp? (ftp severs seem fairly smart, so I'm sure it can be done, but I wouldn't have a clue how.) Lets say for example I'm doing the...
Jun 27, 7:20 am 1993
Jimmy Huang
Re: Do you 'play' or 'work' with Linux?
chchen@stat (Ching-Hsiang Chen) writes: Well, play ;-). I don't have a job doing computer stuff, i just kinda hack around. And yes, i'm still very annoyed using X in a 14" monitor, with a resolution fo 1024x768, can you say squint? I do have real apps running on Linux, but to say That I *Really* use them is blasphemous until I actually get paid for using them. I just downloaded what seems to be MatLab, I found Spice2g6, have Rsim, Magic, OceanCad, and Chipmunk. This will be one fun s...
Jun 27, 6:39 am 1993
Drew Sullivan
Re: Dream Machine has arrived.
I too just put up a "Dream Machine", EISA, 32Mb mem, 3x1Gb SCSI disk drives, Eithernet, (The CD-rom and tape drive are on the old 386.) The only problem was that I too ordered the ATI EISA card. Didn't work with linux's X8514 version of X. Would start up correctly but when it switched back to text mode it wasn't correct. Had to send it back and go with the ISA card :-< If you get your EISA ATI card to work, let me know. Lastly my EISA card didn't have a mouse and the ISA box shows the ca...
Jun 27, 6:37 am 1993
Peter Mutsaers
Re: X Window Managers
On 26 Jun 1993 14:57:45 -0400, tor@tss.no (Tor Arntsen) said: TA> People have different preferences. That's all. TA> (BTW, how well a wm suits you also depends quite a lot of how well you TA> manage to configure it.) Yes, that's one of the things I like about (c)twm and dislike about olvwm. It is less flexible when it comes to configuration. Also personally I hate icons, and with twm you can get rid of them and use an iconmanager instead. -- _________________________________...
Jun 27, 6:25 am 1993
Peter Mutsaers
Re: X Window Managers
On Sat, 26 Jun 1993 17:25:25 GMT, badger@phylo.life.uiuc.edu (Jonathan Badger) said: JB> I think you are forgetting what Xview is. Xview was created as a JB> SunView API for Open Look. As such it really is Open Look JB> independent. Sun is not dumping Xview, as far as I know -- I JB> imagine there will be simply a new version of Xview that gives a JB> COSEy look-and-feel. I doubt it. The latest version of Open Look already offered two possibilities by adding Olit (Open Lo...
Jun 27, 6:23 am 1993
Christian Kuhtz
Re: ESDI? or S.O.L.?
Hi, I'm running a Linux site here with two ESDI drives. One Seagate ST-1201E (150MB) and a Siemens Megafile (250MB). I use the Adaptec 2322-B Controller and I didn't have any problems with ESDI at all. It works. It's neat cause you don't have to bother with harddisk parameters and it's really plug-n-play. It is definitely compatible. Kind regards, Chris -- Christian Kuhtz, Gruener Weg 69c...
Jun 27, 4:59 am 1993
Ryan Herbst
Uninstalling Linux?
I recently installed Linux on a portable to take a look at the system. I am planning to install it on my computer in the near future, but for now I need to remove the system from the portable. I am having trouble removing the boot program Lilo from the hard drive. Repartitioning and reformattig has not been able to remove it and I am unaware of how to do it under Linux. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks in advance. ______________________________________________________________________ | Ryan ...
Jun 27, 3:09 am 1993
jgomezr@neptune.uucp
Making bash behave like ksh
What's the secret in getting bash to perform like ksh during command-line substitution? I've set bash to use vi editing via 'set -o vi'. For some reason, it's in insert mode, instead of command mode. Also, attempting to retrieve a command twice via the '/' command results in a beep. Whereas in ksh, pressing '/' repeatly attempts to find all occurences of the command, then it will finally beep when no more occurences exist. I'm running SLS 1.01 0.99p9 Linux. Thanks! -- jgomezr@neptune.c...
Jun 27, 1:46 am 1993
Neal Stephenson
localtime & finger
Hi, I just installed the timezone stuff and set it all up. everything works fine. I even fixed lastlog file creation to stamp hostnames of the last logins so finger could read it. (anyone want the patches let me know). My problem is finger now reports the login time and follows it with EST, however we are in EDT, date reports EDT what gives???? Neal.
Jun 27, 1:17 am 1993
Marchini Killer Number 3
Serial/Modem problems.
I am having problems with using my modem from Linux. I am trying to use the 'kermit' program to talk to my modem and dial out. When I enter kermit and try to connect to the modem, it gives an 'I/O error'. My modem is on com port 1, /dev/modem is linked to /dev/ttyS0 which has major number 4, and minor number 64. Whenever I try 'cat > /dev/modem' it gives the same error. When my machine boots it says serial driver 3.8 with AUTO_IRQ, and then identifies a ttys2 as a 16450 (I think that's the num...
Jun 27, 12:51 am 1993
Vince Skahan
Re: P.McDonald, please read, was Re: Probs with UUCP
my comment is that it is NEVER a good idea to obscure the native behavior of anything for the benefit of a few people who are unwilling (or unable) to understand the native behavior of an operating system. it's real simple...depending on which shell you're in, certain characters have special meanings. The sooner you learn that, the sooner you don't have to cook up all kind of silliness to cover your laziness. Peter...keep '!' meaning what it's SUPPOSED to mean, please. -- ---------...
Jun 26, 10:46 pm 1993
Adams
Re: Exaggeration of X11 RAM usage (was Re: Coherent vs. Linu...
In article <MUTS.93Jun20232921@muts.hacktic.nl> muts@muts.hacktic.nl (Peter Mutsaers) writes: We saw comparable problems on SGI--systems. You have to have at least 64 MBytes to work in a reasonable manner on these systems. Perhaps you pay for RISC. We have sawn .text--segments beeing 4 times larger than those on a SUN/3 built from the same sources. (As allways SGI denies this behaviour, but all SGI--systems here around were to be upgraded to 64 MBytes to 128 MBytes RAM.] And --- you need...
Jun 26, 9:56 pm 1993
Adams
Re: MIPS R3000 board to run Linux, anyone?
Need not be on the same bus, as bandwidth of cpu bus should be around 300 MByte for a R3000 50 MHz, and most disks deliver at less than On a fast system, you would prefer to have I/O handled independently of the CPU. Ever considered how expensive an interrupt service is on a R[34]000 running any kind of non-realtime operating system? On pre--Indigo SGI there were just interesting solutions to this very problem... NO because of RFI and buffering. MOS--Microprocessors tend to drive a rather ...
Jun 26, 9:38 pm 1993
Adams
Re: MIPS R3000 board project
Well, nearly all Sparc--systems and Alpha--systems are sold with and OS, ... FE--Problems, 2 2/2D-- and 3D--CAD benefit most from pipelined, vector like matrix operations. For large problems of this kind a cache offers no value at best, a severe penalty at worst because of thrashing. As you have to shell out about 150.000 DM to get approbriate systems from HP, you will discover, that you have bought indeed memory and disk drives at a multiple of the street price just to make the needed CPU run ....
Jun 26, 9:09 pm 1993
Alan Wenban
Porting Linux to PS/2 microchannel machines
What needs to be done to port Linux to microchannel machines? Is it only the hard disk device drivers that don't work, or do other parts of Linux cause problems as well? During the last year I have seen many posts by people attempting to do this port. I'm interested to know the status of these attempts and what difficulties arose. -- ====================================================================== Alan Wenban | Cornell University wenban@ee.cornell.edu | Department of El...
Jun 26, 8:52 pm 1993
James A Robinson
Re: X Window Managers
Very VERY interested! It would save one from needing to install olwm, olvwm, and gwm to keep users happy. Jim jimr@world.std.com
Jun 26, 8:47 pm 1993
Matt Welsh
NET-2-FAQ draft release
This is a DRAFT release of the NET-2-FAQ. Please MAIL comments, my USENET access has been flaky at best. :) I was planning to put off posting this until I received feedback from the NET folks, but I'm afraid it can't wait. Even if this is incomplete, it has to help somebody. :) PLEASE---this is a draft release. I need to get feedback from other folks on their own experiences installing NET-2; i.e. what things they did differently from the instructions here, any gotchas or caveats that I forgot...
Jun 26, 8:32 pm 1993
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