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pingnan shi
How to move linux to another HD
I recently bought a second hard disk. I'd like to move all the linux stuff in my first hard disk to the second. Anyone in the group has done so please let me know how. Thanks a lot. Pingnan Shi Dept. of E.E., UBC, Canada. -- +------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pingnan Shi (pings@ee.ubc.ca) _______ _______ __|__ | | /___. \ | / ___|___ | | Dept. of Electrical Engineering /| | ---|--- |_\_/_| | | Univ. of British Co...
Apr 26, 6:30 pm 1993
Ed Casas
"hardware" fix to set 3-button serial mouse mode
I have a mouse that switches from PC-Mouse (3-button) mode to Microsoft (2-button) mode according to the level of the DTR handshake line. The default 2-button mode is awkward to use under X11. I found that simply disconnecting the DTR line from my mouse lets the line float low (-5V) on the mouse side and sets the PC-Mouse mode. I was able to disconnect DTR by bending a contact on a connector inside my mouse. Another possibility would be to make a serial connector adapter that does not pass DT...
Apr 25, 11:10 pm 1993
M. Saggaf
Re: TERM 1.07 is great!
Well, it's the usual compromise between safety and convenience. If you comment that check out and accidentally press the the StartTerm button twice (like if you double-click instead of single-clicking), you'll get two instances of term running on the same terminal and modem, what a mess that would be. If you leave the code as is however, there is no /Muhammad M. Saggaf | Bosnia: How long to wait? Till they're all alsaggaf@athena.mit.edu | dead? Help stop the genocide! You can send ...
Apr 26, 6:53 pm 1993
Don Allison
Ultrastor 34F or Adaptec 1542B for Linux???
Hi, I'm getting a system to run Linux (DX2/66, 16MB, etc) but I haven't found any information comparing the advantages of using a local bus SCSI card (Ultrastor 34F) vs an ISA bus one (Adaptec 1542B). I've played with both cards a little and didn't notice any great speed differences under DOS, with the local bus card being a tad slower under Windows...what I need to know is which would be better for Linux (which is the main reason for getting the system). Any comments pro and con would be appre...
Apr 26, 6:42 pm 1993
David Willmore
Re: Intel, the Pentium and Linux
There are just too many factors at play to be able to say that. A well designed CISC should *always* be able to execute more instructions than a RISC processor *per cycle*. The differences lie in that the CISC chip will have taken much more work to design and won't be able to be run at the clock speed that the RISC processor can. Most RISC processors are memory bound today, anyway. Halve the speed of an Alpha and leave the memory interface alone and you won't change the speed of the Alpha by ...
Apr 26, 6:38 pm 1993
David Willmore
Re: Intel, the Pentium and Linux
The reason that I went with my 386/40 was that the price/performance couldn't be beat by any machine in my price range. If it weren't for Linux, I wouldn't even have considered it. Without a meaningful OS, the intel chips were just so much bent sand. OS/2, win, winNT and friends just don't cut it. If it's not Posix or better, it isn't worth using. My next machine won't be an Intel archetecture machine. The reasons are fairly clear in the market today. Very low priced RISC PC's are coming in...
Apr 26, 6:31 pm 1993
David Willmore
Re: Intel, the Pentium and Linux
This changes the hardware architecture of the chip, but the instruction architecture hasn't changed. Programs can't see the difference. To get all of the speed imporvements, you have to recompile, but that's just going to be a flag on GCC. Probably -m586. ;) Cheers, David -- =========================================================================== willmore@iastate.edu | "Death before dishonor" | "Better dead than greek" | David Willmore | "Ever noticed how much they look like orchids...
Apr 26, 6:16 pm 1993
Kelly Murray
Re: Summary of Linux vs. 386BSD vs. Commercial Unixes
**Please allow me to rephrase my previous post so that it is less confusing. **(I assumed too much prior knowledge on the part of the reader) In article <1993Apr23.073110.14397@klaava.Helsinki.FI>, wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius) writes: |> peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva) writes: |> >You chose to give up ownership of your code to the FSF. |> |> Not correct. Putting code under the GPL does not make it the property |> of the FSF. |> |> Other than tha...
Apr 26, 6:11 pm 1993
Juha Virtanen
Re: Really weird panic
My system acted once with 0.99.8 kernel quite in the same way. I were idle for few hours when I came to it and tried to start dialing with kermit (it was there running on one VC). I typed a couple of letters and kernel said me "Trying to free block not in datazone" and then kermit became zombie. I was wondering what's going on and looked processes with procps based top. I notices that one after another processes went into "uninterruptiple sleep" -- as top's manpage says. First update, then init,...
Apr 26, 6:10 pm 1993
Steen Larsen
Getty will not pick up phone
Salutations, I am running .99p7 with a 2400 baud external modem and trying to get getty running properly. I followed the FAQ on serial ports, but when I dial in from another line the line is silent for several seconds and then disconnects. The getty process seems to be running fine on /dev/ttyS1, the proper com port, with the /etc/inittab entry similar to the vt entries. If getty is not running the modem picks it up. Does anyone have any suggestions? Will summarize and notify the FAQ ke...
Apr 26, 6:07 pm 1993
Andy Oram
Testing GNU utilities and Linux -- please join us
If you have built up your own tests for system calls, library routines, networking protocols, or common utilities, this posting offers you an opportunity to put them to good use. You can do a good deed for the Linux community, the Berkeley UNIX community, and the wider world of free software users. Also, if you would like to learn some good test tools and strategies, and devote some time on a volunteer basis to writing tests -- perhaps a couple of weeks full-time, or a couple hours per week over a...
Apr 26, 5:44 pm 1993
Charles W. Browning
Error loading /lib/libc.so.4
Would one of you linux experts assist me. I have installed the SLS mini-version of Linux several times but when I boot from hard disk, I always get this message: init: can't load library '/lib/libc.so.4' No such library. The hardware locks down at this point. I know this file is on the floppy disk that I am installing from. Could someone tell me why the Linux can't see this file on the hard drive. When I ls -all /lib on the floppy drive - the filenames are: libc-lite.so...
Apr 26, 5:34 pm 1993
Drew Eckhardt
Re: 16550 uarts and .99pl8
-- Boycott USL/Novell for their absurd anti-BSDI lawsuit. | Drew Eckhardt Condemn Colorado for Amendment Two. | drew@cs.Colorado.EDU Use Linux, the fast, flexible, and free 386 unix |
Apr 26, 5:27 pm 1993
Keith Mancus
Need abbrevs/macros file for elvis
Does anyone out there have an already-existing file of abbreviations to make elvis more like vi? I was very pleased with elvis until I discovered that some of my most-used vi commands don't seem to work. In particular, "ay`[mark] doesn't seem to yank the text between the current line and the [mark] into the cut buffer. I suspect somebody has already built a file to do this and other vi things; if so, please contact me. I just can't get used to using different commands at home and work! ...
Apr 26, 5:04 pm 1993
Mike Jagdis
Re: Fixing utmp handling under Linux
* In message <1993Apr26.030011.21639@kf8nh.wariat.org>, Brandon S. Allbery said: BA> and a better one if Linux takes the initiative and gives init a few BA> more run levels so they will be more useful. The bootsys init is already somewhat more flexible in this respect - mainly because it would actually have taken extra code to cripple it down to true SYSV level :-). With the bootsys init you can even give meaningful names to your run levels! BA> And in any case I don't see ...
Apr 26, 4:56 pm 1993
Brandon S. Allbery
Re: cursor blink question
I see no reason why it shouldn't, since that's how it was done before hardware blinking cursors became the norm :-) May I suggest that someone collect all these cursor size and blink on/off patches and make them selectable via escape sequences or etc.? That way we don't need to reboot to go from a blinking block cursor to a steady line :-) I'll look up the VT420 escapes for these Wednesday (they're sending me to the main office tomorrow, the VT420 manual is at the client site, grrr...). ++Bran...
Apr 26, 4:41 pm 1993
Kevin Sanders
Re: Pentium
I won't say anything about your final statement; I've already seen the flame-out over a similar sentiment expressed here. I disagree with you on another point, however. For Intel to withold information on their P5 architecture in order to give microshaft (and other companies willing to agree to whatever Intel's nondisclosure requires) an advantage in writing an optimizing compiler is much worse than anything Diamond or other hardware suppliers can do. There are a multitude of vendor choices whe...
Apr 26, 4:34 pm 1993
Francis C. Swasey
SLS 1.01 - Problem
I've found one problem with the SLS 1.01 distribution that I haven't seen mentioned here. That's that the /usr/man/cat1/*tex*.1 files are NOT preformatted. I've fixed it on my own system by moving the files into the /usr/man/man1 directory and formatting them. ,,, (o o) ===============================+=================oOO==(_)==OOo========== Frank Swasey | IBMIPNET: fswasey...
Apr 26, 4:33 pm 1993
Francis C. Swasey/547141
Re: SLS 1.01 A2 Problems...
In article <H2HL3B1w165w@odaiko.cts.com>, jfrost@odaiko.cts.com (SYSTEM 0PERATOR) writes: |> jonallen@cs.buffalo.edu (Jon J. Allen) writes: |> |> > For some reason, my version of SLS 1.01 does not install... |> > |> > A2: |> > |> > image.tgz |> > bin4.tgz |> > dosemu.tgz |> > |> > |> > Without the image... No boot disk is made. |> > Without bin4... No rm and mv commands at least... |> > |> >...
Apr 26, 4:31 pm 1993
Joel Ratsaby
Setting MicroSoft Mouse as 3 button for X
I have a DFI mouse with 3 buttons. It is microsoft compatible. So I set it up as such. It works fine in X Windows except the middle button does not function. Is there a command in X (to set up in the .Xdefaults or .twmrc) that enables the use of the middle button on Micro-Soft-compatible Serial mouse ? --Joel email: jer@ee.upenn.edu, jer@eniac.seas.upenn.edu Phone: (215) 898-1858
Apr 26, 4:29 pm 1993
Frank T Lofaro
Another weird panic (Re: 0.99p8-8 - ext2fs-problem)
Excerpts from comp.os.linux: 26-Apr-93 0.99p8-8 - ext2fs-problem Michael Hmmm, another panic where the system stays (sort of) up. I had one too, but I was messing with filesystem code when it happened to me. Very weird, that a panic would let the system still run. Maybe since it wasn't in task[0]? btw, Anyone know how safe it is to do *anything* after one of these, or should one go for the reset switch? Judging from the fact that when it happened to me, I could still create fi...
Apr 26, 4:28 pm 1993
Kelly Murray
Re: Summary of Linux vs. 386BSD vs. Commercial Unixes
Sorry, but nobody seems to want to move this to gnu.misc.discuss... In article <1993Apr23.073110.14397@klaava.Helsinki.FI>, wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius) writes: |> peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva) writes: |> >You chose to give up ownership of your code to the FSF. |> |> Not correct. Putting code under the GPL does not make it the property |> of the FSF. |> |> Other than that, I agree with Peter, as much as I prefer the GPL over |> the BSD copy...
Apr 26, 4:17 pm 1993
Marc G Fournier
Re: 0.99p8-8 - ext2fs-problem
ext2fs-0.3 fixes that error...I can't remember the exact line number, but just after line 392 in /linux/fs/ext2/ialloc.c is an 'if (...' line that should be 'if (x >= y)', but is currently at 'if (x > y)' Remy pointed that out to me, and once I fixed that, I never received that error again :) Simply upgrading to 0.99pl9 fixes it also, as pl9 uses the new 0.3 code :) marc
Apr 26, 4:15 pm 1993
Marc G Fournier
Re: nothing lets me mount proc fs :(
had the mkdir part...but I had done: mount -t proc /proc /proc instead of getting rid of the t :( thanks :) marc
Apr 26, 4:14 pm 1993
unkn0wn
HELP - PROBLEM ATTACHING SERIAL TERMINAL
I'd appreciate any help on the following please: I am trying to attach a terminal to the serial port, by adding a line to /etc/inittab The message I get at boot-up is the following: Id c7 respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes I'm not sure I'm doing this right in the first place. Could someone post a complete list of steps to take in order to attach terminals to the serial port so that Linux can act as direct-dial BBS?
Apr 26, 3:58 pm 1993
Jerry Shekhel
Re: Intel, the Pentium and Linux
That I don't know, but it's interesting how things have changed. In the old days, my 286 would have to be pumped up to about 200MHz to keep up with my 12MHz R3000 (Personal IRIS). Not that I ever tried it, of course :-) But it used to take a CISC CPU so many cycles to execute an instruction that it would need a much faster clock than a RISC in order to offer similar performance. Now the tables have turned; it takes a 150MHz RISC Alpha to -- +-------------------+----------------------------+-----...
Apr 26, 3:43 pm 1993
Michael Elkins
Re: Linux .99pl9 breaks /etc/config
I installed 0.99p9 yesterday, and I'm not having any problems with it... I'm running with a wd8003e card. me
Apr 26, 3:41 pm 1993
Dan Doner
Re: Linux and Latex..
In article <66929@mimsy.umd.edu>, acecoder@umiacs.umd.edu (Pierce Leonberger) writes: |> Is there anyway I can get .DVI files to print on a dot-matrix (9pin) printer |> in Linux? |> |> Thanks, |> Pierce |> -- |> *-----------------------------------------------------------------------------* |> University of Maryland : |> Institue for Advanced Computer Studies : |> College Park, MD 21144 : Convert your .dvi fi...
Apr 26, 3:37 pm 1993
Nan Zou
Re: Intel, the Pentium and Linux
I agree the price of Pentium will probably come down due to market force, but I also think the Alpha has a lot going for it, market wise, DEC is having a Japanese manufacturer (Mithusta?) second sourcing Alpha chips, so price probably won't remained too high. They also plan to The initial price of above-mentioned Alpha PCs will be less than $5000, from all accounts the initial price of Pentium based system won't be My statement was a little absolute. I probably shouldn't make predic- tions ...
Apr 26, 3:16 pm 1993
Sohail M. Parekh
Orchid Farheniet VA/VLB and XS3 - Need Xconfig - Please Help
I am running Orchid Farheniet VA/VLB and a IDEK (5315, suppose to be really good) monitor, using XS3 server. I like to get Xconfig's from other users of Orchid Farheniet. Please also sendme any notes on any crazy experience with this setup. Thanks in Advance! -- Sohail M. Parekh Grumman Data Systems sohail@rhonda.jsc.nasa.gov 12000 Aerospace Ave. (713) 483-5912 Houston, TX 77034
Apr 26, 3:03 pm 1993
BARRY TITMARSH
FAQ question How to send mail
This question is not seen in any FAQ, I have Linux on the internet i can recieve NNTP SMTP via daemons incommimg mail via tcp/smtp is not a problem. To use ELM to send a mail is not a problem But i cannot figure out how to configure Smail-3.1.28 from src's to make a smtp client to sent out!! mail to the internet. It only seems to make a SMTPD deamon for the server side... How do it make the smtp client.. Also has any one noticed funny's with telnetd not responding to ctrl-m ? in cooked mode! i have ...
Apr 26, 2:58 pm 1993
Sean Eric Fagan Apr 26, 2:57 pm 1993
Thomas Dunbar
Re: LINUX and OSF Software
> Unfortuantely, OSF's GUI (Motif) is now the defacto standard GUI > under X windows. Although X is free, Motif certainly is not. Really? I've never used it, nor does any of the X software i need require it. In what sense is it the "defacto" standard?
Apr 26, 2:56 pm 1993
Zippy
XXGDB woes
Trying to make xxgdb-1.06, I get these errors: calldbx.c:362: `FAPPEND' undeclared (first use this function) calldbx.c:371: too many arguments to function `setpgrp' calldbx.c:380: too many arguments to function `setpgrp' make: *** [calldbx.o] Error 1 I've seen these before (when trying to make xfishtank). Any ideas? Please reply via e-mail. Thanks, Seth. Seth Bromberger seth@gradient.cis.upenn.edu M.S.E. '93, University of Pennsylvania seth@eni...
Apr 26, 2:41 pm 1993
Douglas Melamed
Re: SLS PROBLEM with X11
Whoops forgot to give my email address :) anyway its. mel1@acpub.duke.edu or dmm@cs.duke.edu Appreciate anyhelp you can give.
Apr 26, 2:39 pm 1993
Douglas Melamed
SLS PROBLEM with X11
I've just updated to Xfree1.2 via SLS and I've noticed several executables missing. Namely Xedit and bitmap. Also many applications are failing with a bizzare error Unable to covert string to pixmap. Programs that used to work are doing this. PLease help. BTW I know that I've installed all the packages, I've checked my /install/installed directory several times. The missing programs don't concern me as much as the Pixmap conversion bug. PLEASE EMAIL RESPONSES. I don't subscribe to this newsgro...
Apr 26, 2:35 pm 1993
Stephen Tweedie
Re: Linux 1.0 EFS, etc.
First of all, try upgrading to the e2fsprogs-0.3 on tsx-11.mit.edu or ftp.ibp.fr. Old versions of e2fsck did not set the valid flag on a partition if they didn't find any errors on it. Ultimately, though, this message will keep appearing unless you unmount the partition cleanly every time before powering down; and you currently cannot unmount root. So, you will unfortunately just have to put up with it until Linux gets a clean shutdown sequence which is capable of unmounting root. As long as...
Apr 26, 2:31 pm 1993
Stephen Tweedie
Re: Should HD be syncing when ... [update is not running eit...
A couple of things might help. First of all, if you have one of the newer (sysv-compatible) versions of init, then init itself will do a regular sync for you even if you kill update. Secondly, the kernel can do paging even without a swap file. If memory becomes low, it can delete infrequently-accessed code pages from memory, and will reload them by demand paging if they get accessed again. However, this is not likely to happen regularly during periods of no load! It is possible that the I...
Apr 26, 2:27 pm 1993
Frank T Lofaro
Re: kernel source tree organization problem
Do what I do, and it might be easier. Put your source in /usr/src/linux-0.99.9 (or whatever) and make /usr/src/linux a symlink to that. Or if you want a safe compile, make a backup into /usr/src/linux-0.99.9.orig (or whatever), or rm the symlink in /usr/src/linux, and make a copy of the real source into there, then if it is good, you can rm /usr/src/linux-0.99.9, mv /usr/src/linux to that name, and reestablish the symlink. Using a symlink for /usr/src/linux makes dealing with updgrading kernel v...
Apr 26, 2:23 pm 1993
Stephen Tweedie
Re: linux a real unix?
The latest version does seem to be reliable; in fact, I would hope I have generally had the opposite experience, except for one thing - because (as you have already mentioned) X is a bit slower on Linux/ET4000 than on a Sun ELC, it gets disproportionately affected by heavy load. If you are running in text mode, Linux is *amazingly* responsive even while running a couple of parallel compilations. It is not the kernel but the speed of X which causes the apparent A bigger concern would be the ...
Apr 26, 2:14 pm 1993
Stephen Tweedie
Re: Notification of background job completion ?
This is perfectly standard behaviour, documented in the bash/sh man-page. From "man bash": Shell Variables The following variables are used by the shell. notify If set, bash will report terminated background jobs immediately, rather than waiting until before printing the next primary prompt. so try notify=y to get immediate notification. Cheers, Stephen Tweedie. --- Stephen Tweedie <sct@uk.ac.ed.dcs> (Internet: <s...
Apr 26, 1:52 pm 1993
Pete Bergstrom
Re: LINUX and OSF Software
In article <1rhb92$g3p@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> tdunbar@vtaix.cc.vt.edu (Thomas Dunbar) writes: > Unfortuantely, OSF's GUI (Motif) is now the defacto standard GUI > under X windows. Although X is free, Motif certainly is not. TD> Really? I've never used it, nor does any of the X software i need TD> require it. In what sense is it the "defacto" standard? Why, the Yertle the turtle sense, of course!
Apr 26, 1:51 pm 1993
Brian Kalan
Need help with wd7000 scsi instal
I've been tring to install Linux on my gateway 486/33 with a WD7000 Fast SCSI controller.My doc's suck and I could sure use some help. Hope someone has had the same problem,and better yet has a solution. The error I get while tring to install is:Kernal Panic:WD-7000_INIT Hope that helps. Thanks in advance.
Apr 26, 1:44 pm 1993
Stephen Tweedie
Re: New feature for the filesystems. What do you think ?
When you uncompress a block, both the compressed and uncompressed data will be cached - this will be automatic because of the use of the kernel's standard buffering code. However, if the file continues to be used, the raw compressed data can be flushed from the cache while the Exactly right. In fact, it is because of the allocation information in the raw file data that it is desireable to be able to cache the raw This method would also be incompatible with the standard inode structure. By im...
Apr 26, 1:43 pm 1993
Stephen Tweedie
Re: filename length?
Minix-fs: 14 or 30 - choose when you make the filesystem. (30-char names only on 0.99pl7 (I think) or later). extfs: 255 ext2fs: 255 xiafs: 248 NFS: depends! You currently can't interrogate the server's limit. ISO-CD 255 msdos 8+3 proc Does it really matter?! Cheers, Stephen Tweedie. --- Stephen Tweedie <sct@uk.ac.ed.dcs> (Internet: <sct@dcs.ed.ac.uk>) Department of Computer ...
Apr 26, 1:24 pm 1993
chasw
Problems with tcsh-6.02
Hi, I am installing tcsh-6.02 on my system (running SLS 1.00) and looked into the Makefile. There are some files used by Makefile, but are not found in my system. I hope someone out there who has successfully install tcsh in their Linux system could help me. 1) I have used the following flags for compiling: INCLUDES=-I. -I.. LFLAGS=$(INCLUDES) CFLAGS=-O6 $(INCLUDES) -finline-functions -fstrength-reduce DFLAGS= LDFLAGS= -static -s ## Str...
Apr 26, 12:38 pm 1993
Ian Dickinson
SLIP wanted
I know this is probably a FAQ, but I did check what FAQs I could find. I have a friend who has a Linux system and he's looking for a SLIP package to get him onto the Internet properly - so far he's using a DOS package for that side of things, and Linux for development etc. I've heard that there is a proper kernel resident implementation in the works, though I also guess it's a way off yet. I've also heard that a user mode KA9Q can be made to work. Anyone got any pointers to where I could fetch so...
Apr 26, 12:33 pm 1993
Keith Barrett
Re: SLS 1.01 libm.so.4.3.3????
Re: SLS 1.01 missing libm.so.4.3.3 file Since everyone is going to encounter this problem, and since I have already encountered it myself, and some people (like me) don't have any worthwhile ftp access: Is it possible for someone to post a copy of the appropriate libm.so.4.3.3 file here in this newsgroup once? If not, perhaps someone can email it to me? Sure would make my life easier. Thanks in advance Keith -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~...
Apr 26, 10:33 am 1993
wpwood
Re: LINUX and OSF Software
In article <C63oov.7IJ@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> spm2d@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Steven Miale) writes: In article <mlh1-260493114344@mhack1.gte.com>, mlh1@bunny.gte.com (Michael Hackney) writes: > Hello fellow Linuxers! > If OSF is not supportive (and they probably won't since they also have > OSF 1) what do we do? Linux may be just a blessing in disguise or may be > relinquished to "just a hacker's OS) if something can't be done (soon). Easy. We writ...
Apr 26, 10:19 am 1993
Lars Wirzenius
Re: cursor blink question
Blinking cursors are unpleasant, at least in some people's eyes. Since all console output goes is controlled by the console driver (isn't it?), it might be possible to turn of the hardware cursor altogether and do a non-blinking software cursor by inverting the character at the cursor. This scheme doesn't work very well under MS-LOSS, since no self-respecting program writes via the operating system. -- Lars.Wirzenius@helsinki.fi (finger wirzeniu@klaava.helsinki.fi) MS-DOS, you can't live...
Apr 26, 10:15 am 1993
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