Re: [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for builtins

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To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@...>
Cc: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@...>, David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...>, <git@...>, <users@...>
Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 10:57 am

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 04:41:57PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:


I don't want to stir up this discussion too much; I am sure you have
many more important things to be working on. But I did want to make one
observation.

One side of the argument, I see a lot of "I would prefer it this way."
And on the other side I see a lot of "this discussion is already
history" and "but I do not care personally that much."

It makes me wonder why nobody has said "no, really, I prefer it without
the programs in /bin." Are they simply confident that the decision has
been made, and don't feel the need to say something?

I am just concerned that we are following a path that is not the best
one because "it was decided" already, when perhaps:

  - the reasons for making that decision may have changed

  - the people interested in opposing that decision didn't speak up at
    the time, either because they weren't git users then, weren't as
    active in the mailing list, changed their minds, or were simply too
    lazy to read the release notes

Again, I don't want to waste time (especially yours, Junio) with a
discussion that is fruitless. But I also don't like to see "no, you are
not allowed to bring fresh arguments to this decision". That precludes
the possibility that the decision was wrong.

Maybe the people who want to keep git-* can discuss amongst themselves
(on the list, but the rest of us can ignore it) and present a concise
argument why circumstances around this decision may have changed.

-Peff
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[RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for builtins, Junio C Hamano, (Sat Aug 23, 11:33 pm)
Re: [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for bu..., A Large Angry SCM, (Mon Aug 25, 10:58 pm)
Re: [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for bu..., A Large Angry SCM, (Tue Aug 26, 7:12 am)
Re: [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for bu..., Johannes Schindelin, (Mon Aug 25, 2:19 pm)
Re: [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for bu..., Jeff King, (Tue Aug 26, 10:57 am)
Re: [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for bu..., Felipe Contreras, (Fri Aug 29, 10:12 am)
Re: [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for bu..., Johannes Schindelin, (Thu Aug 28, 11:34 am)
Re: [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for bu..., Johannes Schindelin, (Thu Aug 28, 3:18 pm)
Re: [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for bu..., Johannes Schindelin, (Thu Aug 28, 11:32 am)
Re: [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for bu..., A Large Angry SCM, (Tue Aug 26, 8:34 pm)
Re: [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for bu..., Dominik Brodowski, (Tue Aug 26, 2:09 pm)
Re: [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for bu..., Dominik Brodowski, (Tue Aug 26, 5:08 pm)
Re: [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for bu..., Johannes Schindelin, (Thu Aug 28, 11:24 am)
Re: [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for bu..., Johannes Schindelin, (Thu Aug 28, 11:21 am)
Re: [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for builtins, Jean Delvare, (Wed Aug 27, 3:42 am)
Re: [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for bu..., Geert Uytterhoeven, (Wed Aug 27, 11:14 am)
Re: [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for bu..., Matthias Kestenholz, (Tue Aug 26, 12:04 pm)
Re: [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for bu..., Felipe Contreras, (Fri Aug 29, 12:11 pm)
Re: [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for bu..., Felipe Contreras, (Fri Aug 29, 12:28 pm)
Re: [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for bu..., Matthias Kestenholz, (Fri Aug 29, 4:27 am)
Re: git-* in test scripts, Junio C Hamano, (Thu Aug 28, 8:04 pm)
Re: git-* in test scripts, Jeff King, (Thu Aug 28, 8:10 pm)
[PATCH] bash completion: Hide more plumbing commands, Petr Baudis, (Tue Aug 26, 1:11 pm)
Re: [PATCH] bash completion: Hide more plumbing commands, Jakub Narebski, (Tue Aug 26, 1:38 pm)
Re: [PATCH] bash completion: Hide more plumbing commands, Junio C Hamano, (Thu Sep 4, 12:57 am)
Re: [PATCH] bash completion: Hide more plumbing commands, Shawn O. Pearce, (Tue Aug 26, 1:24 pm)
Re: [PATCH] bash completion: Hide more plumbing commands, Junio C Hamano, (Tue Aug 26, 2:25 pm)
Re: [PATCH] bash completion: Hide more plumbing commands, Daniel Barkalow, (Tue Aug 26, 3:04 pm)
Re: [PATCH] bash completion: Hide more plumbing commands, Shawn O. Pearce, (Tue Aug 26, 3:07 pm)
Re: [PATCH] bash completion: Hide more plumbing commands, Daniel Barkalow, (Tue Aug 26, 3:23 pm)
Re: [PATCH] bash completion: Hide more plumbing commands, Shawn O. Pearce, (Tue Aug 26, 2:27 pm)
Re: [PATCH] bash completion: Hide more plumbing commands, Jakub Narebski, (Tue Aug 26, 1:43 pm)
git-show vs git-log (or: git show vs git log), Dominik Brodowski, (Thu Aug 28, 3:46 am)
Re: [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for bu..., Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy, (Tue Aug 26, 1:47 pm)
Re: [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for bu..., Felipe Contreras, (Mon Aug 25, 10:38 am)
Re: [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for bu..., A Large Angry SCM, (Mon Aug 25, 11:00 pm)
Re: [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for bu..., Geert Uytterhoeven, (Mon Aug 25, 8:17 am)