Re: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4

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From: Junio C Hamano
Date: Thursday, February 7, 2008 - 12:42 pm

Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> writes:


I think you need to grow a thicker skin.

It does not matter if the person is somebody you know or you
have shared with.  I'd grant you that Luciano could have been
more diplomatic when he started his message, but I'd agree that
it is silly to refuse to install an end user program unless the
end user agrees to GPL that governs how its sources can and
cannot be used, especially if the installer does not even
install the sources to the software.

In other words, consider his message as a bug report to the
installer.

I think removing the license dialog is a bad idea.  You need to
tell the end-user about his rights, and one of the things is
that he can get source to git under the terms of GPLv2.  The bug
is not about showing the license, but is about refusing to
install unless the end user agrees with it.


The tit-for-tat in GPLv2 which we use is about "I gave you my
source.  If you are going to work on my source and distribute
the result, you must promise me that I have the access to that
modified source of yours.  Otherwise you cannot work on it and
distribute the result."

Showing the GPL (which says it does not cover the mere use of
the software) and then asking if the user accepts is merely
about:

	"If and only if you are going to modify and distribute
	it, you must abide by the rules.  Do you understand?"

The valid answers to the question would include "I understand",
"I do understand it, I do not like it, but I am not going to
modify and distribute it anyway", and even "I do not understand
it, but I just want to use it".  In any case, refusing to
install unless the user says "I agree" feels silly.

If I were writing the installer, I would say in the dialog, "git
is distributed under GPL so you have the usual rights any GPLed
software comes with", optionally show the GPL, and have a single
"Continue" button.

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[ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Junio C Hamano, (Fri Feb 1, 9:34 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Junichi Uekawa, (Sat Feb 2, 2:25 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, しらいしななこ, (Sat Feb 2, 2:45 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Wincent Colaiuta, (Sat Feb 2, 5:11 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Johannes Schindelin, (Sat Feb 2, 8:58 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Steffen Prohaska, (Sat Feb 2, 3:42 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Junichi Uekawa, (Sat Feb 2, 6:00 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Johannes Schindelin, (Sat Feb 2, 7:14 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Junichi Uekawa, (Sat Feb 2, 8:16 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Johannes Schindelin, (Sat Feb 2, 8:24 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Junichi Uekawa, (Sat Feb 2, 8:51 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Christian Couder, (Sat Feb 2, 10:32 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Pierre Habouzit, (Sun Feb 3, 3:38 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Johannes Schindelin, (Sun Feb 3, 3:50 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Theodore Tso, (Sun Feb 3, 5:56 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Matthieu Moy, (Sun Feb 3, 8:08 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Dmitry Potapov, (Sun Feb 3, 10:55 am)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Theodore Tso, (Sun Feb 3, 12:27 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Luciano Rocha, (Thu Feb 7, 5:31 am)
Re: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Johannes Schindelin, (Thu Feb 7, 5:55 am)
Re: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Luciano Rocha, (Thu Feb 7, 6:07 am)
Re: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Eyvind Bernhardsen, (Thu Feb 7, 6:23 am)
Re: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Johannes Schindelin, (Thu Feb 7, 6:28 am)
Re: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Steffen Prohaska, (Thu Feb 7, 6:53 am)
Re: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Nicolas Pitre, (Thu Feb 7, 7:53 am)
Re: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Luciano Rocha, (Thu Feb 7, 8:59 am)
Re: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Nicolas Pitre, (Thu Feb 7, 9:35 am)
Re: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Johannes Schindelin, (Thu Feb 7, 9:53 am)
Re: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Steffen Prohaska, (Thu Feb 7, 10:01 am)
Re: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Junio C Hamano, (Thu Feb 7, 10:30 am)
Re: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Johannes Schindelin, (Thu Feb 7, 11:40 am)
Re: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Luciano Rocha, (Thu Feb 7, 11:52 am)
Re: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Luciano Rocha, (Thu Feb 7, 11:55 am)
Re: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Luciano Rocha, (Thu Feb 7, 11:59 am)
Re: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Johannes Schindelin, (Thu Feb 7, 12:08 pm)
Re: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Junio C Hamano, (Thu Feb 7, 12:42 pm)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Dmitry Potapov, (Thu Feb 7, 12:58 pm)
Re: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Linus Torvalds, (Thu Feb 7, 12:59 pm)
Re: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Dmitry Potapov, (Thu Feb 7, 1:23 pm)
Re: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Steffen Prohaska, (Thu Feb 7, 1:58 pm)
Re: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Jeremy Maitin-Shepard, (Thu Feb 7, 2:02 pm)
Re: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Jonathan del Strother, (Thu Feb 7, 2:49 pm)
Re: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Dmitry Potapov, (Thu Feb 7, 3:18 pm)
Re: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Linus Torvalds, (Thu Feb 7, 3:48 pm)
Re: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Johannes Schindelin, (Thu Feb 7, 6:53 pm)
RE: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Schuberth, Sebastian, (Fri Feb 8, 2:22 am)
Re: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Steffen Prohaska, (Fri Feb 8, 4:14 am)
Re: [msysGit] Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4, Andreas Ericsson, (Sat Feb 9, 2:25 am)