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From: Li Frank-B20596 <Frank.Li@...>
To: <git@...>
Subject: why not TortoiseGit
Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008 - 9:44 pm

There are TortoiseCVS, TortoiseSVN, TortoiseBzr, TortoiseHg

Why not ToroiseGit


best regards

Frank Li

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From: Ian Hilt <ian.hilt@...>
To: Li Frank-B20596 <Frank.Li@...>
Cc: <git@...>
Subject: Re: why not TortoiseGit
Date: Friday, October 31, 2008 - 8:19 am

This is what Johannes Schindelin had to say,


	<http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/wiki/GitCheetah>

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From: Andreas Ericsson <ae@...>
To: Ian Hilt <ian.hilt@...>
Cc: Li Frank-B20596 <Frank.Li@...>, <git@...>
Subject: Re: why not TortoiseGit
Date: Friday, October 31, 2008 - 8:35 am

Noone's written TortoiseGit yet. I have no idea why, and I have

no reason to write it myself. If GitCheetah isn't working well,

I'm sure patches are welcome.


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From: Scott Chacon <schacon@...>
To: Andreas Ericsson <ae@...>
Cc: Li Frank-B20596 <Frank.Li@...>, Ian Hilt <ian.hilt@...>, <git@...>
Subject: Re: why not TortoiseGit
Date: Friday, October 31, 2008 - 11:57 am

I'm trying to get this restarted - dscho and I talked about this at

the GitTogether, and I met some people (from the OpenAFS project that

also happened to be there, oddly) who were interested in working on

this with me.  I think the lack of a linkable library has greatly

hindered the development of projects like this, so that will likely be

part of the development process as well.


Scott


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From: Li Frank <Frank.Li@...>
To: Scott Chacon <schacon@...>, Andreas Ericsson <ae@...>
Cc: Ian Hilt <ian.hilt@...>, <git@...>
Subject: RE: why not TortoiseGit
Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008 - 10:14 am

I read some code of TortoiseSVN and TortoiseHg Code.

At beginning, TortoiseGit can git command to get information like Qgit.

After linkable library ready, replace "git command". 


I think TortoiseGit can start base on below way.


1.  Base on TortoiseHg, It is python Script.  Replace below hg operator

with Git.

2.  Base on TortoiseSVN, It is developed with C++. Need VS2008.

ToritoiseSVN provide some built in diff and merge tools.

3.  Base on Qgit, which provide some basic UI, such comment dialogbox,

history view and file annotate. 


Best regards

Frank Li


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From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:git-owner@vger.kernel.org] On

Behalf Of Scott Chacon

Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 11:58 PM

To: Andreas Ericsson

Cc: Ian Hilt; Li Frank-B20596; git@vger.kernel.org

Subject: Re: why not TortoiseGit


I'm trying to get this restarted - dscho and I talked about this at the

GitTogether, and I met some people (from the OpenAFS project that also

happened to be there, oddly) who were interested in working on this with

me.  I think the lack of a linkable library has greatly hindered the

development of projects like this, so that will likely be part of the

development process as well.


Scott


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From: Nigel Magnay <nigel.magnay@...>
To: Li Frank <Frank.Li@...>
Cc: Scott Chacon <schacon@...>, Ian Hilt <ian.hilt@...>, Andreas Ericsson <ae@...>, <git@...>
Subject: Re: why not TortoiseGit
Date: Monday, November 3, 2008 - 6:00 am

TortoiseSVN is a good place to start because it separates out the

windows icon decorators into a separate DLL (shared with TortoiseCVS).

This is significant, as these are a finite resource in the windows

shell, and so having a TortoiseSVN + TortoiseGIT on one machine and

you might run out, and I'd imagine lots of people wanting both.


On the minus side, building (Tortoise)SVN requires a lot of

environment setup just to get it to build - most of which can be

immediately thrown away as it's specific to SVN.


But it doesn't look like a hard project to me, just requires stripping

out a lot of junk and re-patching callouts to a git executable (which

could be the standard git tools) and a minimal git library that knows

if files are dirty.

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From: Li Frank <Frank.Li@...>
To: Nigel Magnay <nigel.magnay@...>
Cc: Scott Chacon <schacon@...>, Ian Hilt <ian.hilt@...>, Andreas Ericsson <ae@...>, <git@...>
Subject: RE: why not TortoiseGit
Date: Monday, November 10, 2008 - 9:51 pm

Nigel Magnay:


I create a tortoisegit project at repo.or.cz.

http://repo.or.cz/w/TortoiseGit.git


It is coming from TortoiseSVN. It is very early stage.  The context menu

have worked.  TortoiseGitProc.exe help command have been worked.  


Welcome contribute. 


Best regards

Frank Li


-----Original Message-----

From: Nigel Magnay [mailto:nigel.magnay@gmail.com]

Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 6:00 PM

To: Li Frank-B20596

Cc: Scott Chacon; Andreas Ericsson; Ian Hilt; git@vger.kernel.org


TortoiseSVN is a good place to start because it separates out the

windows icon decorators into a separate DLL (shared with TortoiseCVS).

This is significant, as these are a finite resource in the windows

shell, and so having a TortoiseSVN + TortoiseGIT on one machine and you

might run out, and I'd imagine lots of people wanting both.


On the minus side, building (Tortoise)SVN requires a lot of environment

setup just to get it to build - most of which can be immediately thrown

away as it's specific to SVN.


But it doesn't look like a hard project to me, just requires stripping

out a lot of junk and re-patching callouts to a git executable (which

could be the standard git tools) and a minimal git library that knows if

files are dirty.

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From: Li Frank <Frank.Li@...>
To: Nigel Magnay <nigel.magnay@...>
Cc: Scott Chacon <schacon@...>, Ian Hilt <ian.hilt@...>, Andreas Ericsson <ae@...>, <git@...>
Subject: RE: why not TortoiseGit
Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 - 2:36 am

I also think it is best choose base on Tortoise SVN.  TortoriseGIt

should be in windows platform only because it is extension of explore.


Best regards

Frank Li 


-----Original Message-----

From: Nigel Magnay [mailto:nigel.magnay@gmail.com]

Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 6:00 PM

To: Li Frank-B20596

Cc: Scott Chacon; Andreas Ericsson; Ian Hilt; git@vger.kernel.org


TortoiseSVN is a good place to start because it separates out the

windows icon decorators into a separate DLL (shared with TortoiseCVS).

This is significant, as these are a finite resource in the windows

shell, and so having a TortoiseSVN + TortoiseGIT on one machine and you

might run out, and I'd imagine lots of people wanting both.


On the minus side, building (Tortoise)SVN requires a lot of environment

setup just to get it to build - most of which can be immediately thrown

away as it's specific to SVN.


But it doesn't look like a hard project to me, just requires stripping

out a lot of junk and re-patching callouts to a git executable (which

could be the standard git tools) and a minimal git library that knows if

files are dirty.

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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@...>
To: Li Frank <Frank.Li@...>
Cc: Nigel Magnay <nigel.magnay@...>, Scott Chacon <schacon@...>, Ian Hilt <ian.hilt@...>, Andreas Ericsson <ae@...>, <git@...>
Subject: RE: why not TortoiseGit
Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 - 8:52 am

Hi,


FYI I completely disagree with this reasoning.


Ciao,

Dscho


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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@...>
To: Nigel Magnay <nigel.magnay@...>
Cc: Li Frank <Frank.Li@...>, Scott Chacon <schacon@...>, Ian Hilt <ian.hilt@...>, Andreas Ericsson <ae@...>, <git@...>
Subject: Re: why not TortoiseGit
Date: Monday, November 3, 2008 - 9:26 am

Hi,


I only wish that people would put their code where there mouth is.


At least with GitCheetah, we have working code, _and_ an opportunity to go

cross-platform.


Ciao,

Dscho


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From: Nigel Magnay <nigel.magnay@...>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@...>
Cc: Li Frank <Frank.Li@...>, Scott Chacon <schacon@...>, Ian Hilt <ian.hilt@...>, Andreas Ericsson <ae@...>, <git@...>
Subject: Re: why not TortoiseGit
Date: Monday, November 3, 2008 - 9:39 am

Well, hey, I don't care there's no TortoiseGit. I looked at these

things back when I had colleagues stuck on Windows, and at the time

wanted to try and wean them off SVN.


The shell-icon overlay limit on Windows looked a significant problem

to me, and a good reason for at least re-using that bit of code (which

is common to even tortoiseCVS). It looked like it had been through a

significant number of iterations to get platform shell subtleties

right.


I even looked at wacky things, like using IKVM.Net and JGit to hack it

quickly, but that's a non-starter because of MS' stupid

one-clr-per-process.


That's what I found. Maybe it'll be useful for anyone else that wants

to continue. Since it's not an itch for me any more, and it won't feed

my children, until someone that cares enough does something there

won't be one.

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From: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@...>
To: Li Frank-B20596 <Frank.Li@...>
Cc: <git@...>
Subject: Re: why not TortoiseGit
Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008 - 9:59 pm

Because GitCheetah


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From: Li Frank-B20596 <Frank.Li@...>
To: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@...>
Cc: <git@...>
Subject: RE: why not TortoiseGit
Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008 - 10:02 pm

GitCheetah seem only GitGui Here and GitBash Here.

TortoiseXXX can show log, diff, commit change ...at explore menu. 


Best regards

Frank Li 


-----Original Message-----

From: Jakub Narebski [mailto:jnareb@gmail.com]

Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 9:59 AM

To: Li Frank-B20596

Cc: git@vger.kernel.org

Subject: Re: why not TortoiseGit


Because GitCheetah


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From: George Shammas <georgyo@...>
To: Li Frank-B20596 <Frank.Li@...>
Cc: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@...>, <git@...>
Subject: Re: why not TortoiseGit
Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008 - 11:07 pm

The very very blunt answer is, TortoiseGit doesn't exist because no

one has created it. And this may partly be do to the fact that git is

more powerful then the programs who have it, so its a bigger project

to make it stupid proof.


-G


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From: Miles Bader <miles@...>
To: George Shammas <georgyo@...>
Cc: Li Frank-B20596 <Frank.Li@...>, Jakub Narebski <jnareb@...>, <git@...>
Subject: Re: why not TortoiseGit
Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008 - 11:53 pm

... and from what I've seen of tortoise* users, "stupid proof" is very,

very, very, necessary...


-Miles


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