Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?

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To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...>
Cc: Git Mailing List <git@...>
Date: Wednesday, September 5, 2007 - 3:42 am

On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 07:09:27AM +0000, Linus Torvalds wrote:
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  Well independently from the fact that one could suppose that users
should use gc on their own, the big nasty problem with repacking is that
it's really slow. And I just can't imagine git that I use to commit
blazingly fast, will then be unavailable for a very long time (repacks
on my projects -- that are not as big as the kernel but still -- usually
take more than 10 to 20 seconds each).

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  I do, when I'm bored and that I can't get things done. you know, it
has become one of my many twitches when I have an empty tty in front of
me and that I'm doing nothing useful. Though, when I'm in a hack-attack,
well I don't necessarily remember to repack. I'm in one of the (not so
many ?) very lucky companies (yay start-ups) where I could show that git
was very superior, and we now use it as our sole SCM. So when I'm in a
hack attack, it's usually that it's a busy week, and that new patches,
trees, objects (and sometimes with large binary things in it) flows like
hell. And the repository grows larger and larger. Well, the way we chose
to avoid the "I'm coding don't bother me with administrivia"-attitude is
that our users use a small cron that basically runs git gc each day, and
an aggressive repack (with a window of 50 or 100 I don't remember) each
Week-end in a cron. Because the best criterion to repack a repository
is: when there is no-one on the computer.

  It has proven quite good, as we have never seen a repository explode
in a day, even after some funny mistakes where people rebase some big
parts of the tree many times, generating very large number of loose
objets.


  I know I don't really answer the question, but the point I try to make
is that yeah, some kind of automated way to run the gc is great, but I'm
not sure that _git_ is the tool to automate that, because when *I* use
git, I expect it to be just plain fast, and I don't want it to
occasionally hang.

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=C2=B7O=C2=B7  Pierre Habouzit
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People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Sep 5, 3:09 am)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Alex Riesen, (Wed Sep 5, 5:07 pm)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, J. Bruce Fields, (Wed Sep 5, 1:44 pm)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Brandon Casey, (Wed Sep 5, 2:46 pm)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, David Kastrup, (Wed Sep 5, 3:09 pm)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Mike Hommey, (Wed Sep 5, 3:20 pm)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, J. Bruce Fields, (Wed Sep 5, 3:13 pm)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, David Kastrup, (Wed Sep 5, 3:43 pm)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Govind Salinas, (Wed Sep 5, 12:47 pm)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Steven Grimm, (Wed Sep 5, 1:35 pm)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Carl Worth, (Wed Sep 5, 1:19 pm)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, David Kastrup, (Wed Sep 5, 4:16 am)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Pierre Habouzit, (Wed Sep 5, 3:42 am)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Steven Grimm, (Wed Sep 5, 2:14 pm)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Nicolas Pitre, (Wed Sep 5, 2:54 pm)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Junio C Hamano, (Wed Sep 5, 4:01 pm)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Johannes Schindelin, (Thu Sep 6, 11:54 am)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Junio C Hamano, (Thu Sep 6, 1:49 pm)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Johannes Schindelin, (Fri Sep 7, 6:12 am)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Shawn O. Pearce, (Fri Sep 7, 12:48 am)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Linus Torvalds, (Thu Sep 6, 2:15 pm)
Subject: [PATCH] git-merge-pack, Junio C Hamano, (Thu Sep 6, 7:12 pm)
Re: Subject: [PATCH] git-merge-pack, Andy Parkins, (Fri Sep 7, 3:24 am)
Re: Subject: [PATCH] git-merge-pack, Johannes Sixt, (Fri Sep 7, 3:11 am)
Re: Subject: [PATCH] git-merge-pack, Junio C Hamano, (Fri Sep 7, 3:34 am)
Re: Subject: [PATCH] git-merge-pack, Nicolas Pitre, (Thu Sep 6, 8:51 pm)
Re: Subject: [PATCH] git-merge-pack, Junio C Hamano, (Fri Sep 7, 12:43 am)
[PATCH] pack-objects --repack-unpacked, Junio C Hamano, (Sat Sep 8, 6:01 am)
Re: [PATCH] pack-objects --repack-unpacked, Shawn O. Pearce, (Sat Sep 8, 10:57 pm)
Re: [PATCH] pack-objects --repack-unpacked, Junio C Hamano, (Sun Sep 9, 1:04 am)
Re: [PATCH] pack-objects --repack-unpacked, Nicolas Pitre, (Sun Sep 9, 8:29 am)
Re: [PATCH] pack-objects --repack-unpacked, Shawn O. Pearce, (Sun Sep 9, 1:49 pm)
Re: Subject: [PATCH] git-merge-pack, Shawn O. Pearce, (Fri Sep 7, 12:07 am)
Re: Subject: [PATCH] git-merge-pack, Junio C Hamano, (Thu Sep 6, 9:58 pm)
Re: Subject: [PATCH] git-merge-pack, Nicolas Pitre, (Thu Sep 6, 10:32 pm)
Re: Subject: [PATCH] git-merge-pack, Linus Torvalds, (Thu Sep 6, 7:35 pm)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Steven Grimm, (Thu Sep 6, 2:29 pm)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Shawn O. Pearce, (Wed Sep 5, 10:45 pm)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Steven Grimm, (Wed Sep 5, 10:49 pm)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Shawn O. Pearce, (Wed Sep 5, 10:56 pm)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Alex Riesen, (Wed Sep 5, 5:18 pm)
Re: [PATCH] Invoke "git gc --auto" from "git add" and "git f..., Johannes Schindelin, (Thu Sep 6, 8:02 am)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Nicolas Pitre, (Wed Sep 5, 4:35 pm)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Junio C Hamano, (Wed Sep 5, 5:49 pm)
Invoke "git gc --auto" from commit, merge, am and rebase., Junio C Hamano, (Wed Sep 5, 5:59 pm)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Junio C Hamano, (Wed Sep 5, 5:46 pm)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, David Kastrup, (Thu Sep 6, 1:55 am)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Nicolas Pitre, (Wed Sep 5, 7:04 pm)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Junio C Hamano, (Wed Sep 5, 7:42 pm)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Carlos Rica, (Wed Sep 5, 8:27 pm)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Steven Grimm, (Wed Sep 5, 4:50 am)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, David Kastrup, (Wed Sep 5, 5:13 am)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Pierre Habouzit, (Wed Sep 5, 5:14 am)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Junio C Hamano, (Wed Sep 5, 5:07 am)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Martin Langhoff, (Wed Sep 5, 5:27 am)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Matthieu Moy, (Wed Sep 5, 5:33 am)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Johan De Messemaeker, (Wed Sep 5, 10:17 am)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Matthieu Moy, (Wed Sep 5, 1:31 pm)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Jeff King, (Wed Sep 5, 7:56 pm)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Junio C Hamano, (Wed Sep 5, 4:16 am)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Junio C Hamano, (Wed Sep 5, 3:30 am)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Wincent Colaiuta, (Wed Sep 5, 4:51 am)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Johan Herland, (Wed Sep 5, 4:13 am)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Matthieu Moy, (Wed Sep 5, 4:39 am)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Pierre Habouzit, (Wed Sep 5, 4:51 am)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Matthieu Moy, (Wed Sep 5, 5:04 am)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Johan Herland, (Wed Sep 5, 4:41 am)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Tomash Brechko, (Wed Sep 5, 3:26 am)
Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?, Martin Langhoff, (Wed Sep 5, 3:21 am)