Re: [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache

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To: Nicolas Pitre <nico@...>
Cc: Morten Welinder <mwelinder@...>, Junio C Hamano <junkio@...>, Git Mailing List <git@...>
Date: Saturday, March 17, 2007 - 10:20 pm

On Sat, 17 Mar 2007, Nicolas Pitre wrote:

Sure. On the other hand, text is what made things easy to do initially, 
and you're missing one *BIG* clue: you cannot remote the support without 
losing compatibility with all traditional object formats.

So you have no choice. You need to support the text representation. As a 
result, *your* code will now be way more ugly and messy.

The thing is, parsing some little text may sound expensive, but if the 
expense is in finding the end of the string, we're doing really well.

In other words: the data structures are both simple and straightforward, 
and the only reason strlen() shows up at all is:

 - we pass strings around as just C strings, even when we know their 
   lengths. Prime example: look at tree-diff.c. And when you look at it, 
   realize that *for*every*single*strlen* in that file except for the very 
   last one (which is only used once per process for setup) we actually 
   know the string length from before, but we (well, *I*) decided that it 
   wasn't worth passing down as a parameter all the time.

 - the simple parsing of the tree itself (which really isn't that 
   expensive - the real expense is bringing the data into the CPU cache, 
   but that's something we'd need to do *anyway*).

So I seriously suspect that you could get the strlen() overhead down from 
that 16% pretty easily, but you'd have to pass the length of the "base" 
string along all the time (and in the tree_entry cases you'd replace the 
"strlen()" calls with a call to something like

	static inline int tree_entry_len(const char *name, const unsigned char *sha1)
	{
		return (char *)sha1 - (char *)name - 1;
	}

which will do it for you).

But what you're ignoring here is that "16%" may sound like a huge deal, 
but it's 16% of somethng that takes 1 second, and that other SCM's cannot 
do AT ALL.

		Linus
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Re: cleaner/better zlib sources?, Linus Torvalds, (Thu Mar 15, 9:46 pm)
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Re: cleaner/better zlib sources?, Davide Libenzi, (Thu Mar 15, 10:43 pm)
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Re: cleaner/better zlib sources?, Davide Libenzi, (Thu Mar 15, 11:16 pm)
Re: cleaner/better zlib sources?, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Mar 16, 12:21 pm)
Re: cleaner/better zlib sources?, Nicolas Pitre, (Fri Mar 16, 1:06 pm)
Re: cleaner/better zlib sources?, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Mar 16, 1:51 pm)
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Re: cleaner/better zlib sources?, Jeff Garzik, (Fri Mar 16, 12:35 pm)
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Re: cleaner/better zlib sources?, Nicolas Pitre, (Fri Mar 16, 1:12 pm)
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Re: cleaner/better zlib sources?, Davide Libenzi, (Fri Mar 16, 12:24 pm)
Re: cleaner/better zlib sources?, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Mar 16, 12:35 pm)
Re: cleaner/better zlib sources?, Davide Libenzi, (Fri Mar 16, 3:21 pm)
Re: cleaner/better zlib sources?, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Mar 16, 8:01 pm)
Re: cleaner/better zlib sources?, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Mar 16, 9:11 pm)
Re: cleaner/better zlib sources?, Nicolas Pitre, (Fri Mar 16, 11:28 pm)
Re: cleaner/better zlib sources?, Linus Torvalds, (Sat Mar 17, 1:55 pm)
Re: cleaner/better zlib sources?, Linus Torvalds, (Sat Mar 17, 3:40 pm)
[PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache, Linus Torvalds, (Sat Mar 17, 3:44 pm)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache, Linus Torvalds, (Sat Mar 17, 6:44 pm)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache, Linus Torvalds, (Sat Mar 17, 5:45 pm)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache, Morten Welinder, (Sat Mar 17, 9:14 pm)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache, Avi Kivity, (Sun Mar 18, 2:28 am)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache, Linus Torvalds, (Sat Mar 17, 9:29 pm)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache, Linus Torvalds, (Sat Mar 17, 9:44 pm)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache, Nicolas Pitre, (Sat Mar 17, 9:38 pm)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache, Linus Torvalds, (Sat Mar 17, 9:55 pm)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache, Nicolas Pitre, (Sat Mar 17, 10:03 pm)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache, Linus Torvalds, (Sat Mar 17, 10:20 pm)
[PATCH 3/2] Avoid unnecessary strlen() calls, Linus Torvalds, (Sat Mar 17, 11:06 pm)
Re: [PATCH 3/2] Avoid unnecessary strlen() calls, Junio C Hamano, (Sun Mar 18, 5:45 am)
Re: [PATCH 3/2] Avoid unnecessary strlen() calls, Linus Torvalds, (Sun Mar 18, 11:54 am)
Re: [PATCH 3/2] Avoid unnecessary strlen() calls, Junio C Hamano, (Mon Mar 19, 11:16 pm)
Re: [PATCH 3/2] Avoid unnecessary strlen() calls, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Mar 20, 12:31 am)
Re: [PATCH 3/2] Avoid unnecessary strlen() calls, Shawn O. Pearce, (Tue Mar 20, 12:39 am)
Re: [PATCH 3/2] Avoid unnecessary strlen() calls, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Mar 20, 12:57 am)
Re: [PATCH 3/2] Avoid unnecessary strlen() calls, Johannes Schindelin, (Mon Mar 19, 11:05 pm)
Re: [PATCH 3/2] Avoid unnecessary strlen() calls, Shawn O. Pearce, (Mon Mar 19, 11:29 pm)
Re: [PATCH 3/2] Avoid unnecessary strlen() calls, Shawn O. Pearce, (Mon Mar 19, 11:40 pm)
Re: [PATCH 3/2] Avoid unnecessary strlen() calls, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Mar 20, 12:11 am)
Re: [PATCH 3/2] Avoid unnecessary strlen() calls, Junio C Hamano, (Tue Mar 20, 1:44 am)
Re: [PATCH 3/2] Avoid unnecessary strlen() calls, Shawn O. Pearce, (Tue Mar 20, 12:18 am)
Re: [PATCH 3/2] Avoid unnecessary strlen() calls, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Mar 20, 12:45 am)
Re: [PATCH 3/2] Avoid unnecessary strlen() calls, Linus Torvalds, (Sun Mar 18, 11:57 am)
Re: [PATCH 3/2] Avoid unnecessary strlen() calls, Shawn O. Pearce, (Sun Mar 18, 5:38 pm)
Re: [PATCH 3/2] Avoid unnecessary strlen() calls, Linus Torvalds, (Sun Mar 18, 5:48 pm)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache, Nicolas Pitre, (Sat Mar 17, 11:00 pm)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache, Linus Torvalds, (Sat Mar 17, 11:31 pm)
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Re: [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache, Robin Rosenberg, (Sun Mar 18, 2:29 pm)
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Re: [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache, Robin Rosenberg, (Tue Mar 20, 2:35 am)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache, David Brodsky, (Tue Mar 20, 5:13 am)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Mar 20, 10:37 pm)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache, Nicolas Pitre, (Tue Mar 20, 10:54 pm)
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Re: [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache, Julian Phillips, (Sun Mar 18, 1:30 am)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache, Linus Torvalds, (Sun Mar 18, 1:23 pm)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache, Junio C Hamano, (Sat Mar 17, 7:12 pm)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache, Linus Torvalds, (Sat Mar 17, 7:24 pm)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache, Jon Smirl, (Sat Mar 17, 7:52 pm)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache, Junio C Hamano, (Sat Mar 17, 6:37 pm)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache, Nicolas Pitre, (Sat Mar 17, 9:13 pm)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache, Junio C Hamano, (Sun Mar 18, 3:47 am)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache, Linus Torvalds, (Sat Mar 17, 7:09 pm)
Re: [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache, Linus Torvalds, (Sat Mar 17, 7:54 pm)
Re: cleaner/better zlib sources?, Shawn O. Pearce, (Sat Mar 17, 1:19 am)
Re: cleaner/better zlib sources?, Matt Mackall, (Thu Mar 15, 9:14 pm)
Re: cleaner/better zlib sources?, Shawn O. Pearce, (Thu Mar 15, 9:10 pm)