Re: On Tabs and Spaces

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From: Linus Torvalds
Date: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 11:54 am

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007, Tom Tobin wrote:

Well, let's put it this way: that "sample" is the one that started the 
project.

I got to pick the license. Are you going to argue about that too? I got to 
pick the way I wrote the code. Are you going to continue arguing about 
that?

The fact is, I don't see the people arguing for spaces having actually 
*done* anything for git. So why are you arguing?


Umm. And I've *told* you that.

The whole point is:
 - every single damn editor out there can handle tabs.
 - it's the default
 - end of story.

What's so hard to understand? 


That disk-space translates into memory usage too, and into just being 
technically the *inferior* choice.

How hard is that to accept? If you have a choice between a technically 
better solution, and a technically worse one, why are you arguing for the 
worse one?


Hey, Ḯ'm not saying that others shouldn't use spaces. I'm saying that 
*git* should not, the same way the Linux kernel does not and will not.

Why? Because tabs are better. You (or anybody else) have simply never 
given any argument against that very simple argument. You try to push an 
inferior solution.


Don't talk about "rational discussion", since you don't even *have* any.

The starting point for any rational decision would be to explain why 
changing tabs to spaces would actually improve anything at all. And you 
have yet to show *any* such argument, while I've shown arguments to the 
reverse.

One big one being: the person who started the project and still actually 
*does* something for it actually cares.

In contrast, your argument seems to be "I've not actually done anything, 
but I want to paint the bikeshed pink".

		Linus
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Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Jari Aalto, (Tue Oct 16, 10:06 am)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Oct 16, 12:20 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Mike Hommey, (Tue Oct 16, 12:36 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Oct 16, 12:47 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Oct 16, 12:51 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Tom Tobin, (Tue Oct 16, 1:18 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Matthieu Moy, (Tue Oct 16, 1:32 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Sam Ravnborg, (Tue Oct 16, 1:56 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Oct 16, 4:05 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Christer Weinigel, (Tue Oct 16, 4:51 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Oct 16, 5:45 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Michael Witten, (Tue Oct 16, 8:08 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Oct 16, 8:29 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Luke Lu, (Wed Oct 17, 12:17 am)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Michael Witten, (Wed Oct 17, 2:09 am)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Luke Lu, (Wed Oct 17, 3:03 am)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Nikolai Weibull, (Wed Oct 17, 3:21 am)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Michael Witten, (Wed Oct 17, 4:23 am)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Oct 17, 8:53 am)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Johannes Schindelin, (Wed Oct 17, 11:05 am)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Tom Tobin, (Wed Oct 17, 11:25 am)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Oct 17, 11:54 am)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Tom Tobin, (Wed Oct 17, 12:33 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Oct 17, 12:44 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Jan Wielemaker, (Wed Oct 17, 12:47 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Nicolas Pitre, (Wed Oct 17, 12:48 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Josh England, (Wed Oct 17, 12:52 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Oct 17, 12:53 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, David Kastrup, (Wed Oct 17, 1:31 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Johannes Schindelin, (Wed Oct 17, 2:08 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Christer Weinigel, (Wed Oct 17, 2:21 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Oct 17, 3:03 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Johannes Schindelin, (Wed Oct 17, 3:11 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Christer Weinigel, (Wed Oct 17, 4:17 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Johannes Schindelin, (Wed Oct 17, 4:44 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Oct 17, 4:53 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Christer Weinigel, (Wed Oct 17, 5:31 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Jeff King, (Wed Oct 17, 5:32 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Oct 17, 5:59 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Jeff King, (Wed Oct 17, 7:45 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Jeff King, (Wed Oct 17, 8:00 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, david, (Wed Oct 17, 8:03 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Oct 17, 8:13 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Jeff King, (Wed Oct 17, 8:23 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Oct 17, 8:32 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Oct 17, 9:17 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Dmitry Potapov, (Wed Oct 17, 9:36 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Nicolas Pitre, (Wed Oct 17, 9:52 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Jeff King, (Wed Oct 17, 9:54 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Jeff King, (Wed Oct 17, 9:55 pm)
Re: [PATCH] Add a message explaining that automatic GC is ..., Shawn O. Pearce, (Wed Oct 17, 10:11 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, Andreas Ericsson, (Wed Oct 17, 11:02 pm)
Re: On Tabs and Spaces, David Kastrup, (Wed Oct 17, 11:25 pm)
Re: [PATCH] git-gc: improve wording of --auto notification, Shawn O. Pearce, (Thu Oct 18, 6:24 pm)