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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@...>

To: Frank Lichtenheld <frank@...>

Cc: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@...>, <git@...>

Subject: Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued

Date: Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 9:04 am

Hi,

On Sat, 13 Oct 2007, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:

quoted text> On Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 01:46:40AM +0100, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> > On Sat, 13 Oct 2007, Jakub Narebski wrote:
> > >    Figure out why people find git hard to learn and eliminate those
> > >    barriers to entry.  Make git more task-oriented rather than
> > >    data-model-oriented the way it is now.
> > 
> > Frankly, expectations like these make me want to bang somebody's head 
> > on the wall.  Why do people expect others to work for them for free?  
> > Hard?
> 
> It's called "User". And since this is the Git _User's_ Survey, I guess 
> you will have to live with that. And anyway, where in the above you find 
> something about "expectation" rather than "suggestion"?

"Figure out" sounds to me like an imperative.

But my real point is: these guys know exactly what they find hard in git.  
Why don't they just come and tell us?

Just like Carl Worth did, way back when.  And it worked, didn't it?  Git 
1.5 is vastly more user friendly than pre 1.5.

Ciao,
Dscho

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