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To: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@...>
Cc: <git@...>, Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@...>
Date: Friday, October 12, 2007 - 11:04 pm

Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:

We may find support for Git on SourceForge in the future, but not
on Google Projects anytime soon, if ever.

At the Google Summer of Code Mentor Summit last Saturday Dscho had a
short chat with someone from the Google Code group.  Apparently they
did at least look at Git briefly but concluded that they cannot
implement it on their site as our backend storage database is just
plain files on the local filesystem.

One of the reasons (probably among many but whatever) that I think
Google hired the "SVN guys" as employees is to develop a Google
specific backend for SVN (replaces fsfs and bdb) that stores the
SVN revision data in a Google BigTable cell rather than on the
local filesystem.  This allows Google to efficently manage the
entire site, including distributed replication, hot failover, etc...
BigTable is one of their key technologies at this point.

If you don't know about BigTable but want to know more you can
search for details about it via this awesome search engine I have
heard about: http://www.google.com/ :-)

I've managed to glean enough details on BigTable to know that the
Git backend is *not* easily layered on top of it.  But the SVN
fsfs backend is actually fairly easy to translate into BigTable,
so I imagine it didn't take the "SVN guys" very long to develop
the new backend, test it, and thus deploy SVN onto Google Projects.


Funny aside: If you really want to know about BigTable apparently
you also need to visit (one of?) the men's room in building 43
on the second floor.  There were tutorial posters hanging on the
wall describing how to use BigTable and Sawzall to summerize a
large dataset.  Most pubs hang sports pages from the local paper;
Google hangs BigTable documentation.  Nerds.  All of 'em.

-- 
Shawn.
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Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Jakub Narebski, (Mon Oct 8, 4:55 pm)
Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Jakub Narebski, (Fri Oct 12, 6:08 pm)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Shawn O. Pearce, (Fri Oct 12, 11:04 pm)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Johannes Schindelin, (Fri Oct 12, 8:46 pm)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Federico Mena Quintero, (Fri Oct 19, 4:57 pm)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Andreas Ericsson, (Sat Oct 20, 4:03 am)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Steffen Prohaska, (Sat Oct 20, 6:19 am)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, J. Bruce Fields, (Sun Oct 21, 6:12 pm)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Jakub Narebski, (Sat Oct 20, 7:06 pm)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Johannes Schindelin, (Sat Oct 20, 7:33 pm)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Andreas Ericsson, (Sun Oct 21, 3:17 am)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Johannes Schindelin, (Sun Oct 21, 6:15 pm)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Steven Grimm, (Mon Oct 22, 6:53 pm)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Andreas Ericsson, (Mon Oct 22, 3:59 am)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Federico Mena Quintero, (Mon Oct 22, 10:53 am)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Jakub Narebski, (Mon Oct 22, 7:27 pm)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Jakub Narebski, (Mon Oct 22, 8:26 am)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Andreas Ericsson, (Mon Oct 22, 10:29 am)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Johannes Schindelin, (Mon Oct 22, 9:45 am)
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Re: best git practices, was Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfin..., Federico Mena Quintero, (Thu Oct 25, 2:06 pm)
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Re: best git practices, was Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfin..., Andreas Ericsson, (Thu Oct 25, 10:58 am)
Re: best git practices, was Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfin..., Federico Mena Quintero, (Thu Oct 25, 2:02 pm)
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Re: best git practices, was Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfin..., Johannes Schindelin, (Mon Oct 22, 11:00 am)
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Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Andreas Ericsson, (Sat Oct 20, 7:29 am)
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Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Johannes Schindelin, (Fri Oct 19, 7:37 pm)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Federico Mena Quintero, (Mon Oct 22, 10:28 am)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Jakub Narebski, (Fri Oct 19, 7:27 pm)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, David Kastrup, (Sat Oct 13, 3:59 pm)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Jakub Narebski, (Sun Oct 14, 5:49 pm)
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Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Jakub Narebski, (Sun Oct 14, 6:15 pm)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Johannes Schindelin, (Sun Oct 14, 6:08 pm)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, David Kastrup, (Sun Oct 14, 6:17 pm)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, J. Bruce Fields, (Sat Oct 13, 4:27 pm)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Johannes Schindelin, (Sat Oct 13, 8:36 pm)
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Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Johannes Schindelin, (Sat Oct 13, 10:06 pm)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Andreas Ericsson, (Sun Oct 14, 4:45 am)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, David Kastrup, (Sun Oct 14, 5:21 am)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Shawn O. Pearce, (Sat Oct 13, 9:44 pm)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Steven Grimm, (Sun Oct 14, 2:12 pm)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Nicolas Pitre, (Sun Oct 14, 3:44 pm)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Shawn O. Pearce, (Mon Oct 15, 7:20 pm)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Nicolas Pitre, (Mon Oct 15, 10:48 pm)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Johannes Schindelin, (Tue Oct 16, 6:51 am)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, J. Bruce Fields, (Sun Oct 14, 2:40 pm)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Andreas Ericsson, (Sun Oct 14, 3:50 pm)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Johannes Schindelin, (Sun Oct 14, 4:18 pm)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, J. Bruce Fields, (Sun Oct 14, 4:24 pm)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Andreas Ericsson, (Sun Oct 14, 4:22 pm)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Steven Grimm, (Sun Oct 14, 3:25 pm)
Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Linus Torvalds, (Sat Oct 13, 11:15 pm)
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Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued, Shawn O. Pearce, (Fri Oct 12, 10:53 pm)
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