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Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT

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To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...>
Cc: sf <sf@...>, <git@...>, Martin Waitz <tali@...>
Date: Friday, December 1, 2006 - 6:06 pm

On Friday 01 December 2006 21:13, Linus Torvalds wrote: 

If you want to allow this, you have to be able to cut off fetching the
objects of the supermodule at borders to given submodules, the ones you
do not want to track. With "border" I mean the submodule commit in some
tree of the supermodule.

This looks a little bit like a shallow clone, where you introduce
graft points at the border to some of the submodule's object DAGs.
But I am not sure that this is scalable: for supermodules with
a large number of submodules you are not interested in,
your graft file would grow very fast, as there will be new borders
with every change in some submodule, which happens to be tracked
in the supermodule.

So IMHO, instead of a huge graft file, you want to have a fast way
to check at a submodule border which submodule this given border is
going into. Then, at fetch time, you easily can decide that you do
not want to fetch any object from the submodule.
Otherwise, you would have to ask the remote end at cloning time:
"Is this commit from some submodule I am locally not interested in?"

So I think we should introduce a submodule namespaces in supermodules.
And at every border from super- to submodules, the name of the
submodule we are going into should be specified.
Which actually means that we need to introduce a "submodule" object,
and trees of a supermodule can have such submodule objects as borders
into a submodule. In a submodule object, of course we have the
SHA1 of the commit into the submodule DAG, and there would be the global
unique name we have choosen for this submodule in this supermodule.
Something like

 submodule: gcc
 commit: 6287376...

Before cloning a supermodule, you should be able to list the names of
the submodules available, and select the submodules you want to have
cloned together with the supermodule.


So in the example, "that/one/submodule" is _not_ the path of the working
tree which happens to be the root of the submodule at current supermodule
HEAD, but the unique name from the submodule namespace.

This is important, as you should be able to move the root of a submodule
inside of your supermodule like moving any other file or directory.
I.e. for every supermodule commit, the path to the root directory of a
given submodule can change, making it useless as a name for a submodule
selection at clone time.

Josef
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Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Jakub Narebski, (Tue Nov 28, 6:50 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andy Parkins, (Tue Nov 28, 9:35 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Wed Nov 29, 12:03 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andy Parkins, (Wed Nov 29, 4:00 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Thu Nov 30, 1:06 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andy Parkins, (Fri Dec 1, 5:02 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 7:00 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, sf, (Fri Dec 1, 8:09 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 8:12 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, sf, (Fri Dec 1, 9:05 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 9:35 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Stephan Feder, (Fri Dec 1, 9:51 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 10:58 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Stephan Feder, (Fri Dec 1, 11:47 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 12:54 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Stephan Feder, (Fri Dec 1, 1:33 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andy Parkins, (Fri Dec 1, 3:17 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 3:38 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andy Parkins, (Fri Dec 1, 5:04 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 5:37 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andy Parkins, (Fri Dec 1, 5:54 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 6:08 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andy Parkins, (Sat Dec 2, 6:04 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Sat Dec 2, 4:40 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Sat Dec 2, 9:50 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Sat Dec 2, 4:43 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Sat Dec 2, 9:02 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 2:48 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, sf, (Fri Dec 1, 7:34 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Sat Dec 2, 3:46 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andreas Ericsson, (Fri Dec 1, 9:43 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 9:46 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andreas Ericsson, (Fri Dec 1, 10:52 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 11:00 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andreas Ericsson, (Fri Dec 1, 12:38 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 12:57 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andreas Ericsson, (Fri Dec 1, 2:08 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 2:51 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Dec 1, 12:49 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 1:14 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, sf, (Fri Dec 1, 1:08 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Dec 1, 4:13 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Jon Loeliger, (Fri Dec 8, 2:29 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andreas Ericsson, (Tue Dec 12, 4:32 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Sven Verdoolaege, (Fri Dec 8, 2:45 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, sf, (Fri Dec 1, 6:35 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Fri Dec 1, 6:06 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Dec 1, 6:26 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Fri Dec 1, 6:55 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Dec 1, 7:30 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Fri Dec 1, 8:14 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Dec 1, 8:33 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Michael K. Edwards, (Mon Dec 4, 2:56 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Sam Vilain, (Mon Dec 4, 9:31 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andy Parkins, (Sat Dec 2, 5:27 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 7:07 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, sf, (Fri Dec 1, 6:41 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Dec 1, 7:09 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Sat Dec 2, 4:12 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, sf, (Fri Dec 1, 7:49 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Torgil Svensson, (Sat Dec 2, 2:57 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Sat Dec 2, 3:41 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, R. Steve McKown, (Sat Dec 9, 5:34 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Torgil Svensson, (Sun Dec 10, 7:47 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Torgil Svensson, (Thu Dec 14, 5:27 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Thu Dec 14, 7:07 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Torgil Svensson, (Fri Dec 15, 1:43 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Fri Dec 15, 5:42 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Torgil Svensson, (Fri Dec 15, 7:43 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Torgil Svensson, (Fri Dec 15, 9:13 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Dec 15, 9:49 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Dec 15, 10:12 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Torgil Svensson, (Sat Dec 16, 4:50 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Torgil Svensson, (Fri Dec 15, 9:20 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Daniel Barkalow, (Mon Dec 4, 10:33 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, sf, (Tue Dec 5, 6:07 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andy Parkins, (Sun Dec 3, 3:33 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Torgil Svensson, (Sun Dec 3, 5:19 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Sun Dec 3, 1:54 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Torgil Svensson, (Mon Dec 4, 4:26 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Mon Dec 4, 4:41 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andreas Ericsson, (Tue Dec 5, 6:38 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Torgil Svensson, (Mon Dec 4, 5:36 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andreas Ericsson, (Tue Dec 5, 6:42 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Fri Dec 1, 7:36 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Dec 1, 8:12 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Sven Verdoolaege, (Sun Dec 3, 6:16 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Sun Dec 3, 6:32 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Mon Dec 4, 7:12 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Sat Dec 2, 4:18 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Sat Dec 2, 4:44 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Sun Dec 3, 4:46 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Sat Dec 2, 5:22 pm)
Thoughts about memory requirements in traversals [Was: Re: [..., Josef Weidendorfer, (Sat Dec 2, 10:07 pm)
Re: Thoughts about memory requirements in traversals [Was: R..., Josef Weidendorfer, (Sat Dec 2, 11:21 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Sat Dec 2, 5:06 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Sat Dec 2, 5:29 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Sat Dec 2, 7:32 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Sat Dec 2, 3:52 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Sat Dec 2, 4:21 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Sat Dec 2, 4:46 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Sat Dec 2, 4:58 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Sat Dec 2, 9:11 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andy Parkins, (Sat Dec 2, 5:22 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Fri Dec 1, 7:03 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 6:12 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Fri Dec 1, 7:17 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Sat Dec 2, 4:24 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Sat Dec 2, 8:55 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Sun Dec 3, 2:29 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Fri Dec 1, 6:26 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 6:40 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 4:30 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Alan Chandler, (Fri Dec 1, 7:23 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andreas Ericsson, (Fri Dec 1, 2:06 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andreas Ericsson, (Thu Nov 30, 2:57 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Uwe Kleine-Koenig, (Tue Dec 5, 5:01 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Sven Verdoolaege, (Tue Dec 5, 12:00 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andreas Ericsson, (Tue Dec 5, 6:33 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Uwe Kleine-Koenig, (Tue Dec 5, 11:02 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andreas Ericsson, (Tue Dec 5, 11:30 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, sf, (Fri Dec 1, 8:03 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 8:11 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, sf, (Fri Dec 1, 9:21 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 9:43 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Stephan Feder, (Fri Dec 1, 10:23 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 11:07 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Stephan Feder, (Fri Dec 1, 12:04 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 12:15 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andy Parkins, (Fri Dec 1, 4:49 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andreas Ericsson, (Fri Dec 1, 5:33 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andy Parkins, (Fri Dec 1, 6:38 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andreas Ericsson, (Thu Nov 30, 8:16 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andy Parkins, (Thu Nov 30, 8:40 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Steven Grimm, (Tue Nov 28, 3:58 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Shawn Pearce, (Tue Nov 28, 5:02 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Shawn Pearce, (Tue Nov 28, 11:44 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andy Parkins, (Tue Nov 28, 12:29 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, sf, (Thu Nov 30, 7:57 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Wed Nov 29, 12:15 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Jon Loeliger, (Tue Nov 28, 1:38 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Shawn Pearce, (Tue Nov 28, 12:36 pm)
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