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Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT

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To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...>
Cc: Martin Waitz <tali@...>, <git@...>
Date: Friday, December 1, 2006 - 1:08 pm

Linus Torvalds wrote:
...
 > Think of it this way: one common use for submodules is really to just
 > (occasionally) track somebody elses code. The submodule should be a
 > totally pristine copy from somebody else (ie it might be the "intel 
driver
 > for X.org" submodule, maintained within intel), and the supermodule just
 > refers to it indirectly (ie the supermodule might be the "Fedora Core X
 > group" which contains all the different drivers from different people).

Could you please be a little bit more specific about how you would store 
the "pristine copy". There seems to be some agreement to store the 
commit id of the submodule instead of a plain tree id in the 
supermodules tree object, and that all objects that are reachable from 
this commit are made part of the supermodule repository (either fetched 
or via alternates). Do you agree?

...
 > A supermodule can never "contain changes" to a submodule. A supermodule
 > would always just point to the submodule, and not have any changes
 > what-so-ever of its own. The submodule is self-sufficient, and always
 > contains all its _own_ changes.

That is one of the points Martin Waitz and I are discussing.

If I understand you correctly you cannot make any changes to the 
submodules code _in the supermodule's repository_, no bugfixes, no 
extensions, no adaptions, nothing. Do you mean that?

That would be a third alternative. In my opinion the usefulness of 
submodules would be unnecessarily restricted if it comes to the choice 
of either using the code from upstream as is or do not use submodules at 
all. What is the point of the restriction?

Regards

Stephan
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Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Jakub Narebski, (Tue Nov 28, 6:50 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andy Parkins, (Tue Nov 28, 9:35 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Wed Nov 29, 12:03 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andy Parkins, (Wed Nov 29, 4:00 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Thu Nov 30, 1:06 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andy Parkins, (Fri Dec 1, 5:02 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 7:00 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, sf, (Fri Dec 1, 8:09 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 8:12 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, sf, (Fri Dec 1, 9:05 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 9:35 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Stephan Feder, (Fri Dec 1, 9:51 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 10:58 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Stephan Feder, (Fri Dec 1, 11:47 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 12:54 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Stephan Feder, (Fri Dec 1, 1:33 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andy Parkins, (Fri Dec 1, 3:17 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 3:38 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andy Parkins, (Fri Dec 1, 5:04 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 5:37 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andy Parkins, (Fri Dec 1, 5:54 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 6:08 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andy Parkins, (Sat Dec 2, 6:04 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Sat Dec 2, 4:40 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Sat Dec 2, 9:50 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Sat Dec 2, 4:43 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Sat Dec 2, 9:02 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 2:48 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, sf, (Fri Dec 1, 7:34 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Sat Dec 2, 3:46 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andreas Ericsson, (Fri Dec 1, 9:43 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 9:46 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andreas Ericsson, (Fri Dec 1, 10:52 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 11:00 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andreas Ericsson, (Fri Dec 1, 12:38 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 12:57 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andreas Ericsson, (Fri Dec 1, 2:08 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 2:51 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Dec 1, 12:49 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 1:14 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, sf, (Fri Dec 1, 1:08 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Dec 1, 4:13 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Jon Loeliger, (Fri Dec 8, 2:29 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andreas Ericsson, (Tue Dec 12, 4:32 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Sven Verdoolaege, (Fri Dec 8, 2:45 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, sf, (Fri Dec 1, 6:35 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Fri Dec 1, 6:06 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Dec 1, 6:26 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Fri Dec 1, 6:55 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Dec 1, 7:30 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Fri Dec 1, 8:14 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Dec 1, 8:33 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Michael K. Edwards, (Mon Dec 4, 2:56 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Sam Vilain, (Mon Dec 4, 9:31 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andy Parkins, (Sat Dec 2, 5:27 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 7:07 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, sf, (Fri Dec 1, 6:41 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Dec 1, 7:09 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Sat Dec 2, 4:12 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, sf, (Fri Dec 1, 7:49 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Torgil Svensson, (Sat Dec 2, 2:57 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Sat Dec 2, 3:41 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, R. Steve McKown, (Sat Dec 9, 5:34 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Torgil Svensson, (Sun Dec 10, 7:47 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Torgil Svensson, (Thu Dec 14, 5:27 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Thu Dec 14, 7:07 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Torgil Svensson, (Fri Dec 15, 1:43 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Fri Dec 15, 5:42 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Torgil Svensson, (Fri Dec 15, 7:43 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Torgil Svensson, (Fri Dec 15, 9:13 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Dec 15, 9:49 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Dec 15, 10:12 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Torgil Svensson, (Sat Dec 16, 4:50 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Torgil Svensson, (Fri Dec 15, 9:20 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Daniel Barkalow, (Mon Dec 4, 10:33 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, sf, (Tue Dec 5, 6:07 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andy Parkins, (Sun Dec 3, 3:33 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Torgil Svensson, (Sun Dec 3, 5:19 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Sun Dec 3, 1:54 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Torgil Svensson, (Mon Dec 4, 4:26 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Mon Dec 4, 4:41 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andreas Ericsson, (Tue Dec 5, 6:38 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Torgil Svensson, (Mon Dec 4, 5:36 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andreas Ericsson, (Tue Dec 5, 6:42 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Fri Dec 1, 7:36 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Fri Dec 1, 8:12 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Sven Verdoolaege, (Sun Dec 3, 6:16 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Sun Dec 3, 6:32 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Mon Dec 4, 7:12 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Sat Dec 2, 4:18 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Sat Dec 2, 4:44 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Sun Dec 3, 4:46 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Sat Dec 2, 5:22 pm)
Thoughts about memory requirements in traversals [Was: Re: [..., Josef Weidendorfer, (Sat Dec 2, 10:07 pm)
Re: Thoughts about memory requirements in traversals [Was: R..., Josef Weidendorfer, (Sat Dec 2, 11:21 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Sat Dec 2, 5:06 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Sat Dec 2, 5:29 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Sat Dec 2, 7:32 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Sat Dec 2, 3:52 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Sat Dec 2, 4:21 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Linus Torvalds, (Sat Dec 2, 4:46 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Sat Dec 2, 4:58 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Sat Dec 2, 9:11 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andy Parkins, (Sat Dec 2, 5:22 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Fri Dec 1, 7:03 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 6:12 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Fri Dec 1, 7:17 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Sat Dec 2, 4:24 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Sat Dec 2, 8:55 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Sun Dec 3, 2:29 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Josef Weidendorfer, (Fri Dec 1, 6:26 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 6:40 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 4:30 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Alan Chandler, (Fri Dec 1, 7:23 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andreas Ericsson, (Fri Dec 1, 2:06 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andreas Ericsson, (Thu Nov 30, 2:57 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Uwe Kleine-Koenig, (Tue Dec 5, 5:01 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Sven Verdoolaege, (Tue Dec 5, 12:00 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andreas Ericsson, (Tue Dec 5, 6:33 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Uwe Kleine-Koenig, (Tue Dec 5, 11:02 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andreas Ericsson, (Tue Dec 5, 11:30 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, sf, (Fri Dec 1, 8:03 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 8:11 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, sf, (Fri Dec 1, 9:21 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 9:43 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Stephan Feder, (Fri Dec 1, 10:23 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 11:07 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Stephan Feder, (Fri Dec 1, 12:04 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Fri Dec 1, 12:15 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andy Parkins, (Fri Dec 1, 4:49 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andreas Ericsson, (Fri Dec 1, 5:33 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andy Parkins, (Fri Dec 1, 6:38 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andreas Ericsson, (Thu Nov 30, 8:16 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andy Parkins, (Thu Nov 30, 8:40 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Steven Grimm, (Tue Nov 28, 3:58 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Shawn Pearce, (Tue Nov 28, 5:02 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Shawn Pearce, (Tue Nov 28, 11:44 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Andy Parkins, (Tue Nov 28, 12:29 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, sf, (Thu Nov 30, 7:57 am)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Martin Waitz, (Wed Nov 29, 12:15 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Jon Loeliger, (Tue Nov 28, 1:38 pm)
Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT, Shawn Pearce, (Tue Nov 28, 12:36 pm)
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