On 9/10/2010 9:54 AM, David DEMELIER wrote:
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> 2010/9/10 Matthew Jacob<mj@feral.com>:
>>   I think not. You are given the opportunity to install prebuilt packages at
>> install time, and with a modest amount of effort can install prebuilt
>> packages afterwards.
>>
>> IMO, such as it is, there should be *less* in the base system than there
>> currently is and more in ports.

I agree with Matt on this one, although that shouldn't be a surprise 
since I'm on record saying it often. :)

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> In this case there are some parts in base/ that could live in ports/
> instead of the base directory such as hostapd(8), maybe nobody want to
> make a usable wireless access point?

Unfortunately arguing to include something new in the base because 
something else that you don't agree with is already there is not a valid 
method. The bar is a lot higher for adding things than keeping things 
(for better or worse).

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> And what about bind too?

As I've said many times, I'm ready to have it out when there is 
consensus to do so. The usual discussion goes like this:

1. Get BIND out of the base!
2. If we remove it, the command line tools (dig, host, nslookup) go with it.
3. Oh, well, we like those, so keep them, but get rid of the rest!
4. BIND is library based, so 90% of the work to make the command line 
tools is building the libs, after which building the server and its 
accessories is trivial work.
5. Oh, well, then make knobs to disable the server!
6. That's already done.
7. Oh, well, never mind then *mumble mumble*

However, all that is likely to change at some point in the future (as 
in, years from now) when BIND 10 becomes the only and/or most viable 
option since it requires a lot of stuff that we are unlikely to ever 
import into the base (like boost, python, etc.). So there is hope for 
you anti-BIND folks yet! :)


Doug

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