Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS

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From: Nick Barkas
Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 - 10:21 am

On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 04:57:30PM +0200, Dan Naumov wrote:

Can you back this up? I cannot recall having ever rendered a FreeBSD
system unbootable due to UFS/UFS2 problems after a power failure or
crash. I once had a problem with snapshots that made background fsck
fail and crash the system, but it was fixable by booting single user and
running fsck manually. This was a couple of years ago, and I think the
problem has since been fixed.

ZFS at least probably is not able to replace UFS2 for everyone, at this
time, anyway. Perhaps gjournal can be a replacement for softupdates for
many people who do still need UFS2, but I'm not sure. I think in any
case, any existing bugs that cause UFS2+softupdates to catastrophically
fail in the event of power failures or system crashes need to be fixed.
Making it easier for users to install a system with ZFS or gjournal does
nothing for those who have existing systems with UFS2+softupdates, and
those who cannot use ZFS or gjournal in the near future for whatever
reason.

That being said, I do agree that being able to support ZFS and gjournal
in sysinstall or an alternative installer would be great. 

Nick
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sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Dan Naumov, (Tue Jun 9, 2:42 am)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Wojciech Puchar, (Tue Jun 9, 7:36 am)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Dan Naumov, (Tue Jun 9, 7:57 am)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Vincent Hoffman, (Tue Jun 9, 8:50 am)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Scott Ullrich, (Tue Jun 9, 9:58 am)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Dan Naumov, (Tue Jun 9, 10:17 am)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Nick Barkas, (Tue Jun 9, 10:21 am)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Scott Ullrich, (Tue Jun 9, 10:31 am)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Wojciech Puchar, (Tue Jun 9, 10:32 am)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Dan Naumov, (Tue Jun 9, 10:36 am)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Wojciech Puchar, (Tue Jun 9, 10:37 am)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Wojciech Puchar, (Tue Jun 9, 10:44 am)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Dan Naumov, (Tue Jun 9, 10:46 am)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Scott Ullrich, (Tue Jun 9, 10:48 am)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, sthaug, (Tue Jun 9, 10:57 am)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Wojciech Puchar, (Tue Jun 9, 1:07 pm)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Wojciech Puchar, (Tue Jun 9, 1:10 pm)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Randy Bush, (Tue Jun 9, 1:35 pm)
RE: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, krad, (Tue Jun 9, 1:58 pm)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS , Kevin Oberman, (Tue Jun 9, 10:50 pm)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Dag-Erling Smørgrav, (Wed Jun 10, 3:05 am)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Dmitry Morozovsky, (Wed Jun 10, 3:31 am)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Wojciech Puchar, (Wed Jun 10, 4:46 am)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Dan Naumov, (Wed Jun 10, 5:04 am)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Wojciech Puchar, (Wed Jun 10, 6:11 am)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Dan Naumov, (Wed Jun 10, 6:15 am)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Miroslav Lachman, (Wed Jun 10, 6:40 am)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Chris Dillon, (Wed Jun 10, 8:55 am)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Dan Naumov, (Fri Jun 12, 3:07 pm)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Scott Ullrich, (Sat Jun 13, 12:47 pm)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Dan Naumov, (Sat Jun 13, 12:56 pm)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Trond Endrestøl, (Sun Jun 14, 8:44 am)
Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS, Thomas Backman, (Sun Jun 14, 9:05 am)