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To: Kris Kennaway <kris@...>
Cc: <freebsd-current@...>
Date: Sunday, January 6, 2008 - 10:51 am

On 06/01/2008, Kris Kennaway <kris@freebsd.org> wrote:


What is the IO profile of this usage? I'd guess that it's "short
bursts of high activity (archive extraction, installing) followed by
long periods of low activity (compiling)". From what I see on the
lists and somewhat from my own experience, the problem appears more
often when the load is more like "constant high r+w activity",
probably with several users (applications) doing the activity in
parallel.


vm.kmem_size="512M"
vm.kmem_size_max="512M"

This should be enough for a 2 GB machine that does other things.


I can confirm that while it delays the panics, it doesn't eliminate
them (this also seems to be the conclusion of several users that have
tested it shortly after it's been posted). The fact that it's not
committed is good enough indication that it's not The Answer.

(And besides, asking users to apply non-committed patches just to run
their systems normally is bad practice :) I can just imagine the
Release Notes: "if you're using ZFS, you'll have to manually patch the
kernel with this patch:..." :)

This close to the -RELEASE, I judge the chances of it being committed are low).
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When will ZFS become stable?, Ivan Voras, (Fri Jan 4, 7:42 am)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Dag-Erling Smørgrav, (Mon Jan 7, 10:04 am)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Ivan Voras, (Mon Jan 7, 10:37 am)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Andrew Thompson, (Mon Jan 7, 4:46 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Pawel Jakub Dawidek, (Mon Jan 7, 5:59 am)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Ivan Voras, (Mon Jan 7, 6:30 am)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Oliver Fromme, (Tue Jan 8, 1:58 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Mark Powell, (Sat Jan 12, 5:45 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Dag-Erling Smørgrav, (Tue Jan 8, 2:24 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Scot Hetzel, (Wed Jan 9, 1:39 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Ivan Voras, (Tue Jan 8, 7:16 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Dan Nelson, (Wed Jan 9, 1:45 am)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Steve Kargl, (Tue Jan 8, 1:59 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Igor Mozolevsky, (Mon Jan 7, 9:17 am)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Robert Watson, (Sun Jan 6, 11:36 am)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Ivan Voras, (Sun Jan 6, 12:47 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Kris Kennaway, (Sun Jan 6, 1:20 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Ivan Voras, (Sun Jan 6, 1:36 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Claus Guttesen, (Sun Jan 6, 4:00 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Kris Kennaway, (Sun Jan 6, 2:10 pm)
ZFS honesty, Scott Long, (Sun Jan 6, 5:00 pm)
Re: ZFS honesty, 韓家標 Bill Hacker, (Sun Jan 6, 6:20 pm)
Re: ZFS honesty, Ivan Voras, (Sun Jan 6, 6:43 pm)
Re: ZFS honesty, 韓家標 Bill Hacker, (Sun Jan 6, 6:58 pm)
Re: ZFS honesty, Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko..., (Sun Jan 6, 8:03 pm)
Re: ZFS honesty, 韓家標 Bill Hacker, (Sun Jan 6, 10:29 pm)
Re: ZFS honesty, Andrew Gallatin, (Wed Jan 9, 9:23 am)
Re: ZFS honesty, Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko..., (Wed Jan 9, 10:55 am)
Re: ZFS honesty, Andrew Gallatin, (Wed Jan 9, 11:36 am)
Re: ZFS honesty, Alexandre Biancalana, (Mon Jan 7, 11:23 am)
Re: ZFS honesty, Kris Kennaway, (Sun Jan 6, 5:32 pm)
Re: ZFS honesty, Scott Long, (Sun Jan 6, 5:54 pm)
Re: ZFS honesty, Ivan Voras, (Sun Jan 6, 6:33 pm)
Re: ZFS honesty, Ivan Voras, (Sun Jan 6, 9:16 pm)
Re: ZFS honesty, 韓家標 Bill Hacker, (Sun Jan 6, 6:32 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Robert Watson, (Sun Jan 6, 1:08 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Darren Reed, (Tue Jan 22, 11:09 am)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Ivan Voras, (Sun Jan 6, 1:28 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Kris Kennaway, (Sun Jan 6, 1:43 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Ivan Voras, (Sun Jan 6, 2:00 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Kris Kennaway, (Sun Jan 6, 2:09 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Ivan Voras, (Sun Jan 6, 2:49 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Brooks Davis, (Fri Jan 4, 12:33 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Ivan Voras, (Fri Jan 4, 1:58 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Peter Schuller, (Sun Jan 6, 5:51 am)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Ivan Voras, (Sun Jan 6, 8:58 am)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Kris Kennaway, (Sun Jan 6, 9:07 am)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Henri Hennebert, (Sun Jan 6, 11:48 am)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Kris Kennaway, (Sun Jan 6, 12:03 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Henri Hennebert, (Sun Jan 6, 12:47 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Kris Kennaway, (Sun Jan 6, 1:13 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Maciej Suszko, (Sun Jan 6, 9:46 am)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Kris Kennaway, (Sun Jan 6, 11:46 am)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Maciej Suszko, (Sun Jan 6, 12:05 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Kris Kennaway, (Sun Jan 6, 12:22 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Maciej Suszko, (Sun Jan 6, 3:56 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Ivan Voras, (Sun Jan 6, 9:50 am)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Kris Kennaway, (Sun Jan 6, 10:27 am)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Ivan Voras, (Sun Jan 6, 10:51 am)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Kris Kennaway, (Sun Jan 6, 11:08 am)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Ivan Voras, (Sun Jan 6, 12:45 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Kris Kennaway, (Sun Jan 6, 1:12 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Gary Corcoran, (Sun Jan 6, 2:48 pm)
Should we simply disallow ZFS on FreeBSD/i386?, Maxim Sobolev, (Sun Jan 6, 5:56 pm)
Re: Should we simply disallow ZFS on FreeBSD/i386?, Joao Barros, (Mon Jan 7, 10:52 am)
Re: Should we simply disallow ZFS on FreeBSD/i386?, Peter Schuller, (Mon Jan 7, 1:06 pm)
Re: Should we simply disallow ZFS on FreeBSD/i386?, Alexander Kabaev, (Mon Jan 7, 6:47 pm)
Re: Should we simply disallow ZFS on FreeBSD/i386?, Christian Walther, (Mon Jan 7, 3:10 am)
Re: Should we simply disallow ZFS on FreeBSD/i386?, Igor Mozolevsky, (Mon Jan 7, 4:20 am)
Re: Should we simply disallow ZFS on FreeBSD/i386?, Christian Walther, (Mon Jan 7, 4:51 am)
Re: Should we simply disallow ZFS on FreeBSD/i386?, Erich Dollansky, (Sun Jan 6, 7:39 pm)
Re: Should we simply disallow ZFS on FreeBSD/i386?, Oliver Fromme, (Tue Jan 8, 1:51 pm)
Re: Should we simply disallow ZFS on FreeBSD/i386?, Adam McDougall, (Sun Jan 6, 7:32 pm)
Re: Should we simply disallow ZFS on FreeBSD/i386?, David Taylor, (Tue Jan 8, 3:56 am)
Re: Should we simply disallow ZFS on FreeBSD/i386?, Maxim Sobolev, (Sun Jan 6, 8:58 pm)
Re: Should we simply disallow ZFS on FreeBSD/i386?, Bernd Walter, (Mon Jan 7, 11:36 am)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Ivan Voras, (Sun Jan 6, 1:20 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Kris Kennaway, (Sun Jan 6, 1:34 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Vadim Goncharov, (Sun Jan 6, 4:56 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Kris Kennaway, (Sun Jan 6, 5:42 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Robert Watson, (Sun Jan 6, 6:33 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Vadim Goncharov, (Mon Jan 7, 11:16 am)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Robert Watson, (Mon Jan 7, 11:39 am)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Vadim Goncharov, (Mon Jan 7, 7:28 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Robert Watson, (Mon Jan 7, 7:39 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Vadim Goncharov, (Tue Jan 8, 2:58 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Robert Watson, (Tue Jan 8, 3:22 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Ivan Voras, (Sun Jan 6, 6:45 pm)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Robert Watson, (Tue Jan 8, 5:19 am)
Re: When will ZFS become stable?, Brooks Davis, (Fri Jan 4, 2:12 pm)
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