Re: ELF dynamic loader name [was: sbrk(2) broken]

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To: Peter Wemm <peter@...>
Cc: Jason Evans <jasone@...>, <freebsd-current@...>, <Dag-Erling Smø@...>, rgrav <des@...>, Peter Schuller <peter.schuller@...>
Date: Friday, January 4, 2008 - 11:51 pm

Peter Wemm wrote:

Details?  Does your approach also solve the problem of
sharing /usr across different architectures (either in
a diskless NFS environment or a dual-boot scenario with
a shared /usr partition)?


I'm not sure that I see the problem.  What am I missing?
  1) gdb is built to debug binaries for a particular architecture. 
(gdb/ARM can't debug gdb/i386 binaries)
  2) gdb therefore only needs to check for "ld-elf-"`uname -m`".so.1",
which is easy to handle when gdb itself is built.

I can see some subtleties for cross-builds, but nothing
outrageous.

It also seems that your argument applies just as well to
ld-elf.so.1 and ld-elf32.so.1.  Either way, there's more
than one ld-elf.so.1, and therefore more than one name
to keep track of.

I'm not championing the rename by any means, just trying
to better understand the issues.  The fact that amd64 can
run i386 binaries but not vice-versa has a lot of subtle
implications.  Also, this is the first time that FreeBSD
has really had large user bases on two fundamentally
different architectures, so it's the first time we've
really had to confront some of these support issues
(such as the shared /usr scenario).

Tim Kientzle
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sbrk(2) broken, Jason Evans, (Thu Jan 3, 2:38 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Andrey Chernov, (Fri Jan 4, 8:21 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken , Poul-Henning Kamp, (Fri Jan 4, 8:57 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Andrey Chernov, (Fri Jan 4, 9:12 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, David Taylor, (Fri Jan 4, 9:25 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Andrey Chernov, (Fri Jan 4, 10:22 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken , Poul-Henning Kamp, (Fri Jan 4, 9:28 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Kostik Belousov, (Thu Jan 3, 4:39 pm)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Dag-Erling Smørgrav, (Thu Jan 3, 3:21 pm)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Robert Watson, (Thu Jan 3, 8:26 pm)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Igor Mozolevsky, (Fri Jan 4, 6:41 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Robert Watson, (Fri Jan 4, 7:19 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Dag-Erling Smørgrav, (Fri Jan 4, 6:55 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Igor Mozolevsky, (Fri Jan 4, 7:18 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Giorgos Keramidas, (Fri Jan 4, 11:26 pm)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Dag-Erling Smørgrav, (Fri Jan 4, 8:45 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken , Poul-Henning Kamp, (Fri Jan 4, 8:53 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Igor Mozolevsky, (Fri Jan 4, 9:03 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Dag-Erling Smørgrav, (Fri Jan 4, 9:12 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Kostik Belousov, (Fri Jan 4, 9:48 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken , Poul-Henning Kamp, (Mon Jan 7, 5:08 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Peter Jeremy, (Mon Jan 7, 5:58 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken , Poul-Henning Kamp, (Mon Jan 7, 6:05 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Igor Mozolevsky, (Mon Jan 7, 9:15 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken , Poul-Henning Kamp, (Mon Jan 7, 9:18 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Andrew Reilly, (Mon Jan 7, 7:19 pm)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Igor Mozolevsky, (Mon Jan 7, 8:06 pm)
Re: sbrk(2) broken , Poul-Henning Kamp, (Mon Jan 7, 8:17 pm)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Peter Schuller, (Mon Jan 7, 9:37 pm)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Dag-Erling Smørgrav, (Tue Jan 8, 2:36 pm)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Peter Schuller, (Wed Jan 9, 2:22 pm)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Dag-Erling Smørgrav, (Thu Jan 10, 6:04 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Dag-Erling Smørgrav, (Thu Jan 10, 10:31 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Igor Mozolevsky, (Mon Jan 7, 8:57 pm)
Re: sbrk(2) broken , Poul-Henning Kamp, (Tue Jan 8, 4:31 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Alexander Kabaev, (Mon Jan 7, 10:34 pm)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Andrew Reilly, (Mon Jan 7, 8:28 pm)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Robert Watson, (Fri Jan 4, 9:24 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Dag-Erling Smørgrav, (Sat Jan 5, 9:50 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Kris Kennaway, (Fri Jan 4, 7:31 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Robert Watson, (Fri Jan 4, 7:22 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Igor Mozolevsky, (Fri Jan 4, 7:30 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Robert Watson, (Fri Jan 4, 7:38 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Dag-Erling Smørgrav, (Fri Jan 4, 8:48 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Dag-Erling Smørgrav, (Fri Jan 4, 5:32 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Robert Watson, (Fri Jan 4, 7:06 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Skip Ford, (Fri Jan 4, 9:54 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Kostik Belousov, (Fri Jan 4, 9:59 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Skip Ford, (Fri Jan 4, 10:11 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Kostik Belousov, (Fri Jan 4, 10:18 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Skip Ford, (Fri Jan 4, 10:58 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Dag-Erling Smørgrav, (Sat Jan 5, 10:01 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Dag-Erling Smørgrav, (Fri Jan 4, 8:34 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Robert Watson, (Fri Jan 4, 9:26 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken , Ian FREISLICH, (Fri Jan 4, 2:27 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Peter Jeremy, (Fri Jan 4, 5:51 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Kostik Belousov, (Fri Jan 4, 8:47 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Scott Long, (Thu Jan 3, 6:23 pm)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, John Baldwin, (Thu Jan 3, 6:46 pm)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Scott Long, (Thu Jan 3, 7:08 pm)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Robert Watson, (Thu Jan 3, 8:31 pm)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Peter Schuller, (Thu Jan 3, 5:00 pm)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Jason Fesler, (Thu Jan 3, 5:08 pm)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Dag-Erling Smørgrav, (Fri Jan 4, 5:07 am)
Re: sbrk(2) broken, Tim Kientzle, (Fri Jan 4, 1:55 pm)
ELF dynamic loader name [was: sbrk(2) broken], Maxim Sobolev, (Fri Jan 4, 5:25 pm)
Re: ELF dynamic loader name [was: sbrk(2) broken], Peter Wemm, (Fri Jan 4, 5:42 pm)
Re: ELF dynamic loader name [was: sbrk(2) broken], Tim Kientzle, (Fri Jan 4, 11:51 pm)
Re: ELF dynamic loader name, Dag-Erling Smørgrav, (Sat Jan 5, 10:16 am)
Re: ELF dynamic loader name, Tim Kientzle, (Sun Jan 13, 3:33 pm)
Re: ELF dynamic loader name, John Baldwin, (Mon Jan 14, 9:51 am)
Re: ELF dynamic loader name, Dag-Erling Smørgrav, (Sun Jan 13, 3:48 pm)
Re: ELF dynamic loader name, John Baldwin, (Mon Jan 14, 9:46 am)
Re: ELF dynamic loader name, Alexander Leidinger, (Mon Jan 14, 7:03 am)
Re: ELF dynamic loader name [was: sbrk(2) broken] , Danny Braniss, (Sat Jan 5, 3:32 am)
Re: ELF dynamic loader name [was: sbrk(2) broken], Peter Wemm, (Sat Jan 5, 6:24 pm)
Re: ELF dynamic loader name [was: sbrk(2) broken] , Danny Braniss, (Sun Jan 6, 3:56 am)
Re: ELF dynamic loader name [was: sbrk(2) broken], Andrew Reilly, (Sun Jan 6, 4:42 pm)
Re: ELF dynamic loader name, Dag-Erling Smørgrav, (Mon Jan 7, 5:42 am)
Re: ELF dynamic loader name, Andrew Reilly, (Mon Jan 7, 7:30 pm)
Re: ELF dynamic loader name, Dag-Erling Smørgrav, (Tue Jan 8, 5:27 am)
Re: ELF dynamic loader name [was: sbrk(2) broken], Maxim Sobolev, (Fri Jan 4, 7:42 pm)
Re: ELF dynamic loader name [was: sbrk(2) broken], Maxim Sobolev, (Fri Jan 4, 7:38 pm)
Re: ELF dynamic loader name, Dag-Erling Smørgrav, (Sat Jan 5, 10:03 am)
Re: ELF dynamic loader name, Ollivier Robert, (Sat Jan 5, 4:56 pm)