| From | Subject | Date |
|---|---|---|
| Artem Kuchin | Re: Problems with gjournal or something else.
osiris# tunefs -p
usage: tunefs [-A] [-a enable | disable] [-e maxbpg] [-f avgfilesize]
[-J enable | disable ] [-L volname] [-l enable | disable]
[-m minfree] [-n enable | disable] [-o space | time] [-p]
[-s avgfpdir] special | filesystem
note here.
The above example is related to ALRADY EXISTING filesystem.
And my point is that IT NEVER WORKS W/O LOOSING DATA!
The only was to create properly working journaled fs is to create
from ...
| Oct 31, 11:33 am 2007 |
| Artem Kuchin | Re: Problems with gjournal or something else.
So, i shoot myself in a foot and got all those error=5 because in my case
Ah! i see.
What about porper journal size? Any recommendations?
Also, please, take a look at "BIO_FLUSH on twe driver" thread.
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| Oct 31, 12:04 pm 2007 |
| Ed Maste | Re: Build error (make related?)
I just ran into the same failure. It seems that somehow specifying
multiple entries in KERNCONF= has been broken; try building just one
at a time.
-Ed
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| Oct 31, 2:57 pm 2007 |
| Red Neck | Re: Loader broken in Head?
The output of the loader is as follows:=0A=0ABTX loader 1.00 BTX version=
is 1.01=0AConsoles: internal video/keyboard=0ABIOS drive C: is disk0=0A=
BIOS drive D: is disk1=0ABIOS drive E: is disk2=0ABIOS 639kB/2090660kB avai=
lable memory=0A=0AFreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1=0A(root@jerry=
, Thu Oct 25 23:37:25 BST 2007)=0A\ ( <- spins forever)=0A=0A=0AThe output=
of 'gpt show ad8' is as follows:=0A=0A start size index conte=
nts=0A 0 1 ...
| Oct 31, 2:11 pm 2007 |
| Julian H. Stacey | Re: Coverity code scan
My EXMH 2.7.2 on FreeBSD-6.2-RELEASE shows:
I guess this would be better on security@freebsd.org than current@, but ...
I suppose FreeBSD Security Officer & or people behind
FreeBSD Security Advisories <security-advisories@freebsd.org>
may know more/ might be in / want to initiate contact with coverity.
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1909946,00.asp (linked from
coverity) says US Department of Homeland Security will spend $1.24
million over three years to fund open-source security ...
| Oct 31, 3:58 pm 2007 |
| Ali Mashtizadeh | Coverity code scan
RG9lcyBhbnlvbmUga25vdyB3aG8gaGFzIGFjY2VzcyB0byBvdXIgYnVncyBpbiBjb3Zlcml0eSdz
IG9wZW4gc291cmNlCnNvZnR3YXJlIHNjYW4/IChodHRwOi8vc2Nhbi5jb3Zlcml0eS5jb20vcnVu
ZzEuaHRtbCkKCi0tIApBbGkgTWFzaHRpemFkZWgK2LnZhNuMINmF2LTYqtuMINiy2KfYr9mHCg==
| Oct 31, 10:34 am 2007 |
| Andre Maurice | OpenSSH Certkey (PKI)
Hi Andre. I have been researching the use of PKI with Openssh. I came =
across a web posting that states that OpenSSH should work out of the box =
with additions and this is why the X.509 support was not =
desirable/pursued.
Is there a way that we can configure OpenSSH to use X.509 certificate?
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| Oct 31, 10:02 am 2007 |
| Kurt Jaeger | Re: OpenSSH Certkey (PKI)
Seems non-trivial, but doable. See
http://roumenpetrov.info/openssh/
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| Oct 31, 12:56 pm 2007 |
| Artem Kuchin | Re: BIO_FLUSH on twe driver. Why is it not there?
How is this possible?
[QUOTE:]
URL:http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/current/2006-08/msg00179.html
DATE SOURCE: AUGUST 2006 freebsd-current maillis)
WHO: Pawel Jakub Dawidek
Unfortunately I'm not able to implement BIO_FLUSH to all out storage
drivers. Currently BIO_FLUSH is supported by ata(4) (/dev/a[dr]X),
da(4) and amr(4).
That's the theory. I'm using standard SCSI commands for this. From the
tests we made it seems that it works ok with twa(4)/twe(4).
I'd still be ...
| Oct 31, 11:39 am 2007 |
| Pawel Jakub Dawidek | Re: Problems with gjournal or something else.
No. It will fail only if your file system is using the last sector. UFS
operates on fragments, so if your disk/slice/partition is not
The example is using separate provider (da0s1e) for the journal, so it
only needs one sector from da0s1d.
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| Oct 31, 11:58 am 2007 |
| Artem Kuchin | Re: Problems with gjournal or something else.
First of all, thank you for replying. It is always very nice and informative
My point here is that since it is and example of configuring a gjournaling onf
existing system then this 'gjournal label da0s1d da0s1e' will always fail.
Of course it says the warning, but basically, condidering that it overwrites
last sector+1 GB of data on existing FS there is actual configuring on
existing FS. It is simply destroying it.
So, i wonder if man page should give such a big hope thar one
can configure ...
| Oct 31, 11:53 am 2007 |
| Artem Kuchin | BIO_FLUSH on twe driver. Why is it not there?
7-BETA1
gjournal complained that BIO_FLUSH is not supported by the driver. That is twe driver.
However, twe is working via scsi subsystem and the authour of gjournal said somewhere that he
has had implemeneted BIO_FLISH for scsi and he specifically mentioned that he has tested twe and twa and they both support
BIO_FLUSH.
Then why BIO_FLISH is not supported now?
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| Oct 31, 10:12 am 2007 |
| Scott Long | Re: BIO_FLUSH on twe driver. Why is it not there?
The twe driver does NOT operate under the SCSI subsystem. As for
flush semantics in SCSI, they are much better done with ordered tags,
not explicit SYNC_CACHE commands. That's not to say that SYNC_CACHE
won't work (well, except for random devices that will hang with it in
unpredictable ways, but no one seems to care about that little detail).
Unfortunately, BIO_ORDERED was removed from the FreeBSD block layer
several years ...
| Oct 31, 10:21 am 2007 |
| Jack Vogel | Proposed #ifdef change to em
I have found that the FAST interrupt handling is implicated
in the watchdog resets that I have seen.
What I plan to do is revert to the way 6.2 had things, meaning
that FAST interrupts will be available but defined off by default.
I wanted to know if anyone has an issue with this. And more
importantly, I have personally not seen this problem on 7, but
I could set up #ifdef's in that driver to be the same way.
What does everyone ...
| Oct 31, 9:35 am 2007 |
| Scott Long | Re: Proposed #ifdef change to em
Let's give it another couple of days to work out the real problem
before we throw in the towel. Follow-ups in private...
Scott
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| Oct 31, 9:39 am 2007 |
| 韓家標 Bill Hacker | Re: Problems with gjournal or something else.
Added question ..
Is this apparent conflict [ occuring | will occur] [because | if/as/when ] the
device has already been given a geom family 'label'.
My specific interest is gjournal & gmirror RAID combination(s) and how/if/which
can/may come first. Or NOT.
Thanx,
Bill
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| Oct 31, 9:45 am 2007 |
| Pawel Jakub Dawidek | Re: Problems with gjournal or something else.
Have you read what the warning says? It tells you that the last sector,
where it tries to write metadata is used by existing file system. Using
-f option will destroy the last sector. You not only decided to
overwrite single sector, but 1GB of data, because you didn't give separate
This command destroys 1GB at the end of your file system. How do you
expect it to work properly after that? Do you think that giving '-f'
will magically add 1GB to your disk capacity? It won't. It will ...
| Oct 31, 11:38 am 2007 |
| Artem Kuchin | Re: Problems with gjournal or something else.
Here is what man says:
Configure gjournaling on an existing file system, but only if gjournal
allows this (i.e.: if the last sector is not already used by the file
system):
umount /dev/da0s1d
gjournal label da0s1d da0s1e
tunefs -J enable -n disable
mount -o async /dev/da0s1d.journal /mnt
mount /dev/da0s1d /mnt
However, this simple does not work.
gjournal label da0s1d da0s1e - WILL FAIL ON EXISTING FS!
Need to use -f switch for this.
So, those whole thing will look like this
1: ...
| Oct 31, 5:28 am 2007 |
| John Baldwin | Re: Loader broken in Head?
partition.
Ok, so disk2 has a GPT. Can you capture the output to show exactly where it
is spinning? Also, can you get the output from 'gpt show ad3' (or whatever
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| Oct 31, 10:21 am 2007 |
| Red Neck | Re: Loader broken in Head?
cd devices:=0Adisk devices:=0A disk0: BIOS drive C:=0A disk0s1=
a: FFS=0A disk0s1b: swap=0A disk0s1d: FFS=0A disk0s1e:=
FFS=0A disk0s1f: FFS=0A disk1: BIOS drive D:=0A disk1=
s1: Unknown fs: 0x7=0A disk1s2: FAT-32=0A disk2: BIOS drive E:=
=0A disk2s1: Unknown fs: 0xee=0Apxe devices:=0A=0AWhere disk1s1 is a=
n NTFS filesystem and disk2s1 is the Mac GPT, don't touch, partition.=0A=0A=
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| Oct 31, 9:10 am 2007 |
| Lance | RE: FreeBSD 6.2 Current
Kevin,
Thank you for pointing out my mistake. None the less I think you most
likely understood what I meant. To make sure you and anyone else
understands what I misspoke about was Stable not current. I patched to
the Oct 2007 Stable 6.2 release.
I still see the same issue as noted before. It doesn't matter if the
broadcomm cards are in a bridge,lagg,or just by themselves they do not
show up in the logs. Any idea why this might be ...
| Oct 31, 8:59 am 2007 |
| Michal Varga | Re: problems: nvidia latest driver and 7.0-BETA1
Well, the product list says that your card should be supported in the
latest (non-legacy) driver: http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_18897.html
As Stefan said, pciconf -vl will be a good start here. Also, do you know
if your card worked before with any other freebsd X.Y + nvidia-driver
X.Y combination?
m.
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| Oct 31, 8:17 am 2007 |
| Stefan Lambrev | Re: problems: nvidia latest driver and 7.0-BETA1
Hi,
Well I'm not sure what exactly is your problem, but this is how I get my
driver working:
/boot/loader.conf
nvidia_load="YES"
linux_load="YES"
cd /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver && make config
everything except AGP is selected.
I'm using and this sysctl - compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16
but nvidia driver should work without problems with default 2.4.2.
And your card is too new to use legacy driver :) just go for the latest.
Also if your card is detected you should have ...
| Oct 31, 7:04 am 2007 |
| Stefan Lambrev | Re: problems: nvidia latest driver and 7.0-BETA1
add to /boot/loader.conf
nvidia_load="YES"
and reboot.
May be you have device vga which blocks access to the card, so if you
load nvidia module before the kernel ..
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| Oct 31, 5:30 am 2007 |
| Michal Varga | Re: problems: nvidia latest driver and 7.0-BETA1
I had one user reporting the same thing here, it seems that removing
freebsd's AGP driver from boot/loader.conf (and kernel, if you have it
compiled in) and using driver's builtin nvAGP helped him. Did you try
this, by a chance?
Also, what is your card's model?
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| Oct 31, 5:50 am 2007 |
| Nenhum_de_Nos | problems: nvidia latest driver and 7.0-BETA1
first of all, since the RELENG_7 birth, I never know where to post
7.0-BETA stuff. well, here I go ...
this is a fresh BETA1 install, did it yesterday. xorg and half gnome
completed, I tried to make nvidia work and nothing.
the kernel module kldloads ok, but nothing gets posted to
dmesg(/var/log/messages)
there are some sysctl things:
[matheus@xxx /usr/home/matheus]$ sysctl hw.nvidia
hw.nvidia.version: NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module 100.14.19 Tue Sep
18 13:59:09 PDT ...
| Oct 30, 6:48 pm 2007 |
| Aryeh Friedman | need if_re patch for 8.0-Current
About 2 months ago someone posted a custom patch for my particular
machine... sad to say for various reasons had to do a complete
reinstall and in the process lost all the patches I use(d) [this is
the only still needed]... can who ever made the patch please resend it
to me?
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| Oct 31, 3:33 am 2007 |
| Peter Losher | In Memoriam: Jun-ichiro Hagino
For those that may not have heard yet.
Re: http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=3Darticle&sid=3D20071030220114
-=3D-
Jun-ichiro "itojun" Itoh Hagino passed away on October 29, 2007 at the
age of 37.
To those in the BSD communities he was simply Itojun, best known in his
role as IPv6 KAME project core researcher. Itojun did the vast majority
of the work to get IPv6 into the BSD network stacks. He was also
instrumental in moving IPv6 forward in all aspects through his
participation in IETF ...
| Oct 31, 1:59 am 2007 |
| Nathan Butcher | Re: Problem with ATAPI device on JMicron JMB363 on 7.0-BETA1
I haven't noticed any MB issues at all. My BIOS has been updated to the
latest "F5" build, and in AHCI mode, the JMB363 detects IDE devices and
my SATA DVD drive (as ODD0 or something like that) in the BIOS startup
screens.
Should I set the JMB to IDE mode, this BIOS screen doesn't appear, but
IDE works anyway as it should. Still no SATA DVD drive love....
AFAIK, given what I am seeing, the drive isn't detected because of a
FreeBSD issue - as it seems to be clearly detected in the AHCI BIOS ...
| Oct 30, 9:58 pm 2007 |
| Nathan Butcher | Re: Problem with ATAPI device on JMicron JMB363 on 7.0-BETA1
My apologies to everyone on this issue. The IDE socket of the JMB363
works (I've been using it for while now with CF cards) - it's just that
the SATA ATAPI features of the chipset apparently aren't supported yet.
I did an update after Soren's latest ata patches, and I noticed that
there's a warning message about the chipset's lack of SATA ATAPI support
in dmesg just after the chipset is detected.
Allow me to feel stupid for a minute, for not seeing this earlier.
I am not sure if SATA hard ...
| Oct 30, 6:36 pm 2007 |
| Kris Kennaway | Re: loader breaks with -O2 optimizations
Maybe, what happens if you use just -O2 -pipe? -funroll-loops is not an
appropriate thing to be using globally anyway, unless your intention is
to randomly make some code slower.
Kris
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| Oct 31, 2:43 am 2007 |
| Josh Carroll | Re: loader breaks with -O2 optimizations
I encountered the same thing in 7.0-BETA1 and resolved it with an edit
to make.conf, specifically:
.if ! ${.CURDIR:M*/boot/i386/boot2*}
CFLAGS+=-O2 -pipe
CXXFLAGS+=-O2 -pipe
.endif
That way, everything else in world is built with -O2 (which I have
never had a problem with, by the way), but loader's CFLAGS are
retained.
The crux of the problem is that gcc takes the LAST -O option as the
effective one. That is:
gcc -Os ... -O2
is the equivalent of:
gcc -O2 ...
Which is ...
| Oct 31, 7:02 am 2007 |
| Jeremy Chadwick | Re: loader breaks with -O2 optimizations
You shouldn't have this in your make.conf. Remove it. This is very
likely breaking a lot more than just loader.
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| Oct 30, 10:36 pm 2007 |
| Dag-Erling Smørgrav | Re: loader breaks with -O2 optimizations
Uh, no. Please stop spreading FUD.
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| Oct 31, 6:35 am 2007 |
| Oliver Fromme | Re: loader breaks with -O2 optimizations
Stephan F. Yaraghchi wrote:
> After making world on a freshly installed 7.0-BETA1
> the system does not boot anymore due to a broken loader:
> [...]
> I found out that the following line in my make.conf causes
> the problem:
>
> CFLAGS= -O2 -funroll-loops -pipe
>
> After changing down to -O1 and making /usr/src/sys/boot again
> the systems behaves properly at boot.
Have you tried with the default flags? i.e. simply remove
the CFLAGS line from your make.conf. Does the loader ...
| Oct 31, 7:52 am 2007 |
| Kris Kennaway | Re: loader breaks with -O2 optimizations
Presumably you mean -O2 -funroll-loops, not -O2. Or are you saying the
Yes, unfortunately it's bogus advice. What does she say this option is
good for?
Kris
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| Oct 31, 2:31 pm 2007 |
| Jeremy Chadwick | Re: loader breaks with -O2 optimizations
Every time it's been discussed, the conclusion reached has been "stop
setting CFLAGS, you're overwriting any previous definition used, which
may be causing problems for you. Use += or COPTFLAGS." Even the
Handbook explains the dangers of using CFLAGS= when one should ...
| Oct 31, 7:30 am 2007 |
| Josh Carroll | Re: loader breaks with -O2 optimizations
Just -O2 broke it for me in RELENG_7, for the reason I said before
(-O2 later in the gcc command line supersedes the -Os from the loader
Makefile).
Thanks,
Josh
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| Oct 31, 2:35 pm 2007 |
| Stephan F. Yaraghchi | Re: loader breaks with -O2 optimizations
Hi Kris,
I tried all possible combinations of these switches -- only -O2 led to
the described
behaviour.
Anyway, it's very interesting to hear that adding these optimizations
to make.conf
is not recommended, even that -funroll-loops is possibly slowing down
certain code.
I'm sure many people use it since it's a common tuning tip found on the web.
I read about it in Dru Lavigne's "BSD Hacks" (O'Reilly)...
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| Oct 31, 3:03 am 2007 |
| Manjunath R Gowda | Re: 7.0 BETA1.5 initial findings...
It's really not "BOOTONLY" , I can install after boot. It should prompt for
user to insert DISC1, if the user selects CD/DVD media for installation. If
the CD is replaced before the start of the install distribution it would
install fine any ways. It's annoying to do bunch of canels if don't insert
the CD and leave the user to guess when to insert the CD.
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| Oct 31, 11:36 am 2007 |
| Ivan Voras | Re: 7.0 BETA1.5 initial findings...
Yes, you are right. These things are "idiosyncratic" for FreeBSD and
sysinstall:
- "bootonly" really means that you can't do anything with it except boot
the kernel (you need disc1 to install it, it has everything on it)
- beta install CDs (disc1) are missing all the packages and the fixit
live system (at least the current one does).
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| Oct 31, 5:44 am 2007 |
| Aryeh Friedman | Re: 7.0 BETA1.5 initial findings...
Also note that amd64 disk1 fails to boot on some SATA cd/dvd drives
(gets upto the end of the device detection but then goes into a finite
series of read_fail timeouts on the cd/dvd drive)...
Details ICH9 with on board SATA/300
P35 Chipset
OEM SATA DVD drive
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| Oct 31, 2:42 am 2007 |
| Vince | Re: 7.0 BETA1.5 initial findings...
Umm bootonly, exactly what it says. Read section 2.13.1 of
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-diff-media.html
for an explanation of what each disk contain/can be used for. If you
Sorry not sure. I tend to install any packages from ftp or just compile
from ports.
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| Oct 31, 2:29 am 2007 |
| Stefan Lambrev | Re: 7.0 BETA1.5 initial findings...
Hi Thomas,
If you have disk1 you do not need boot only CD.
Sorry can't help you here - I never use binary packages (long live ports!)
May be next big step after SMP will be fixing sysinstall ;)
As sysinstall from unfriendly (for new users) on freebsd 3.X moves more
and more to not-working at all.
The problem is that sysinstall is not very interesting for developers
and even not so advanced sysadmins,
can leave almost without it, that's why I think sysinstall doesn't get
enough ...
| Oct 31, 1:58 am 2007 |
| Freddie Cash | Re: 7.0 BETA1.5 initial findings...
And install via one of the network options.
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| Oct 31, 8:58 am 2007 |
| Kris Kennaway | Re: 7.0 BETA1.5 initial findings...
That is expected for beta installs, the packages are typically not yet
available until later in the cycle.
Kris
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| Oct 31, 3:05 am 2007 |
| Sam Leffler | Re: em watchdog problem
I see it on HEAD and releng7.
Sam
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| Oct 30, 5:57 pm 2007 |
| Goran Lowkrantz | Re: em watchdog problem
Hi Jack,
In my case, yes but only under higher loads, specifically when Amanda=20
started receive the backup data. At lower loads, like the check or sizing,=20
no problems.
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| Oct 30, 11:57 pm 2007 |
| Adrian Chadd | Re: em watchdog problem
This doesn't happen for me on my local testing network with RELENG_6
built from October 14 sources.
These boxes generally throw about 350mbit in/out of TCP between each other.
I've recently upgraded one to RELENG_7 to test so I can't provide a
dmesg+interrupt count for it. Note that under load the interrupts are
around 8000/sec for em0 but I haven't run the tests for a few days and
thus the "rate" figure for em0 is a bit misleading.
wendy# vmstat -i
interrupt total ...
| Oct 31, 12:39 am 2007 |
| Christoph Friedrichs | Re: Problem with libthr after update
Yes I did an update from an older release. I previously installed PC-BSD
1.4 which is running a FreeBSD 6 Stable under hood. Actual im running
root@helix# uname -a
FreeBSD helix 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #3: Tue Oct 30 09:45:09
CET 2007 root@helix:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SELFMADE i386
Christoph
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| Oct 30, 11:44 pm 2007 |
| Kris Kennaway | Re: Problem with libthr after update
You need to complete your update by rebuilding all installed ports.
Kris
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| Oct 31, 1:21 am 2007 |
| Ruslan Ermilov | Re: -mdoc vs. -man
I'm not aware of any such tools. But perhaps having formatted
versions of manpages (aka catpages) available in the libarchive
distribution would be enough.
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| Oct 31, 6:25 am 2007 |
| Tim Kientzle | Re: -mdoc vs. -man
All good points. Any leads on software that
can convert from -mdoc to -man? That
would neatly address this issue for me.
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| Oct 30, 8:04 pm 2007 |
| Dan Nelson | Re: -mdoc vs. -man
I use mdoc2man.awk. There isn't really an official site for it, but you
probably have a copy on your system at /usr/src/crypto/openssh/mdoc2man.awk
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| Oct 31, 8:21 am 2007 |
| Giorgos Keramidas | Re: -mdoc vs. -man
Not really. I haven't really used -man for any substantial
amount of work in years. Maybe Ruslan, who is our groff-guru
knows about something?
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| Oct 31, 3:33 am 2007 |
| Pawel Jakub Dawidek | Re: Problems with gjournal or something else.
It's wrong order. See gjournal(8) manual page, EXAMPLES section. You
cannot create file system and then put journal on the same partition.
gjournal would warn you about that, but you used force (-f) option.
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| Oct 31, 2:52 am 2007 |
| Scott Long | Re: RFC: Evolution of the em driver
There are too many examples to name in every OS of drivers that have
tried in vain to support diverging hardware evolutionary paths. if_dc
and if_bge are great (or horrible, depending on your perspective)
examples of this in FreeBSD. My vote is to nip the madness in the bud
on if_em and have two (or more drivers) that support their hardware
families well instead of one driver that supports multiple ...
| Oct 30, 8:06 pm 2007 |
| Jack Vogel | Re: RFC: Evolution of the em driver
Yes, this is a good point, and when I'm done I will make sure that
only the appropriate ID's will work on a particular driver so this
kind of thing does not happen.
Jack
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| Oct 31, 9:29 am 2007 |
| Peter Jeremy | Re: RFC: Evolution of the em driver
<metoo>A separate driver is probably cleaner.</metoo>
I'll just make the comment that if a separate driver is written, there
needs to be a clear way for an end user to identify what driver is
needed/preferred for his chipset. We already have cases like
re(4)/rl(4) and sym(4)/ncr(4) where some chips are supported by two
drivers - though generally only one driver fully supports the chip.
This sort of thing is confusing for end users.
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| Oct 31, 4:44 am 2007 |
| Jeremy Chadwick | Re: RFC: Evolution of the em driver
For what it's worth, I agree with Scott. I'd rather see a new and
separate driver (presumably igb(4)) than a "hacked up" em(4) driver
trying to handle tons of IC revisions. A good example of the insanity
the latter causes is nve(4) vs. nfe(4). :-)
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| Oct 31, 1:16 am 2007 |
| Pawel Jakub Dawidek | Re: zfs stuck, cannot do any I/O, processes in Disk Wait
I'm afraid you need to do some debugging on your own. I'd start from
compiling INVARIANTS, INVARIANT_SUPPORT and WITNESS in. You may want to
take a look at developers handbook to see how to obtain some
informations from DDB.
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| Oct 31, 2:54 am 2007 |
| Adam McDougall | Re: zfs stuck, cannot do any I/O, processes in Disk Wait
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 10:54:28AM +0100, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote:
On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 10:43:56PM -0400, Adam McDougall wrote:
> I think I have had this happen at least once before, but someone else
> rebooted the system before I could see it. I have a server with a
> number of zfs filesystems mounted from a raidz, but it won't transfer
> any data. I'm not sure why its stuck. It is running 7.0-PRERELEASE
> Wed Oct 17 and I'm pretty sure it is WITHOUT vm_kern.c.2.patch. ...
| Oct 31, 1:17 pm 2007 |
| Andrey V. Elsukov | Re: Problem with ATAPI device on JMicron JMB363 on 7.0-BETA1
Yes. Several people reported that theirs issues with jmb363 was fixed
after BIOS update. And seem that the "last" BIOS is not mean "stable".
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| Oct 31, 12:15 am 2007 |
| Matthew D. Fuller | Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8
On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 10:23:58AM +0000 I heard the voice of
Quite.
The slowest machine I currently have running (to get slower, I'd have
to dig in my closet) is my laptop, which is a P54 Pentium 133MHz, with
32 megs of RAM and a hard drive that runs in PIO mode. It's running a
2002-vintage RELENG_4, on which the largest manpage is perlfunc(1) (at
71k). On the first run without the manpage in cache:
% time sh -c 'man perlfunc > /dev/null'
6.881u 0.204s 0:07.22 98.0% 173+581k ...
| Oct 31, 7:39 am 2007 |
| Giorgos Keramidas | Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8
Fixed with a bit of help from our resident groff-guru, Ruslan :)
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| Oct 31, 9:08 am 2007 |
| Bernd Walter | Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8
I don't completly agree.
Many people forget that FreeBSD is used on slow embedded systems
[73]arm9# time sh -c 'man perlfunc > /dev/null'
Formatting page, please wait...Done.
76.000u 5.000s 3:21.21 40.8% 2269+36014k 35+1io 27pf+0w
[74]arm9# time sh -c 'man ls > /dev/null'
Formatting page, please wait...Done.
15.000u 1.000s 0:45.48 38.3% 3286+30833k 18+1io 1pf+0w
This was on an AT91RM9200 based system.
It wasn't completely idle, since it is currently routing my DSL
arm based ...
| Oct 31, 12:08 pm 2007 |
| Matthew D. Fuller | Re: /usr/share/man/man8/MAKEDEV.8
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 08:08:31PM +0100 I heard the voice of
Oh, I don't argue that there are cases where catpages are still
useful. But I think they're the exception, not the rule. When you're
setting up a tiny system (by whatever the standards of the given day
are) or an appliance, you expect the tradeoffs to be rather different
than on a normal (by said standards) general-purpose computer.
Heck, looking at Soekris, everything above the 4501 class is probably
faster than my laptop ...
| Oct 31, 12:30 pm 2007 |
| Lyndon Nerenberg | Re: Proposed change to rcorder for ypset
To my mind, the proper solution is to move the /etc/rc.d/ypset
functionality into /etc/rc.d/ypbind, and eliminate /etc/rc.d/ypset
altogether. ypset(8) is only ever consumed by ypbind(8), so
splitting them apart like this just adds needless complexity.
I would eliminate the nis_ypset_enable rc.conf variable, and have /
etc/rc.d/ypbind invoke ypset(8) directly if nis_ypset_flags is not
empty.
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| Oct 31, 12:01 am 2007 |
| Cristi Magherusan | Re: panic in 8-CURRENT / BGE hang
Hello,=20
I've tried again the latest version of if_bge.c on my HP 6710b laptop
with no results, even after setting hw.bge.allow_asf=3D"0". I've also
tried with the debugger and it seems to panic when calling free() in
device_probe_child.c (IIRC). Then I #define'd BUS_PROBE and the freeze
occurs after displaying something like "devclass_alloc_unit: now: unit 0
in devclass bge".
The 7 Beta 1.5 install CD hangs also when loading the driver.
I have a coredump made from whithin the ...
| Oct 31, 9:39 am 2007 |
| Dag-Erling Smørgrav | Re: [7.0-Beta] can no longer ssh into just upgraded host
ml
No. The client and server send their version string in plain text
immediately upon establishing a TCP connection. PAM isn't initialized
until after they have agreed on algorithms and keys and decided which
authentication method to use.
DES
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| Oct 31, 8:37 am 2007 |
| Dag-Erling Smørgrav | Re: [7.0-Beta] can no longer ssh into just upgraded host
What makes you think it might be PAM-related? They don't even get as
far as exchanging version strings.
DES
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| Oct 31, 7:18 am 2007 |
| Jeremy Chadwick | Re: [7.0-Beta] can no longer ssh into just upgraded host
An old -stable post I read is what made me think it might be
PAM-related:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2004-November/009414.html
I don't know what stage PAM is actually induced within sshd (are any
PAM-related API calls done before version exchange, etc.).
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| Oct 31, 7:39 am 2007 |
| Jack Vogel | Re: em0: watchdog timeout ...
sysctl hw.pci.enable_msi=1
and
sysctl hw.pci.enable_msix=1
For those that don't know, MSI/X is there in STABLE but off by default.
Jack
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| Oct 31, 3:25 pm 2007 |
| Mike Tancsa | Re: em0: watchdog timeout ...
Thanks,
Do I need to do this in /boot/loader.conf or can I set it at
any time? Are there any performance hits / boosts to use this method
instead of the default ?
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| Oct 31, 3:33 pm 2007 |
| Robert Huff | Re: em0: watchdog timeout ...
I get this (link state up/down), but only once and only while
Mine is shared as well, with ahc0.
Robert Huff
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| Oct 30, 6:19 pm 2007 |
| Mike Tancsa | Re: em0: watchdog timeout ...
How do I enable that ?
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| Oct 31, 1:58 pm 2007 |
| Jack Vogel | Re: em0: watchdog timeout ...
I have set it after the system booted and it seemed to work.
John could speak more authoritatively since he wrote it, but I have
seen no problem turning em use on whenever. Uh, this means of
course, enabling it and THEN loading the driver, if em is loaded and
you enable the system it will have no effect on em until unload and
reloading it.
John has also said that MSI in 6.X is not as full an implementation as
in 7 but I don't recall what that amounted to.
It means you have a unique ...
| Oct 31, 3:44 pm 2007 |
| John Baldwin | Re: em0: watchdog timeout ...
What if you use MSI?
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| Oct 31, 1:21 pm 2007 |
| Ali Mashtizadeh | Re: ZFS kmem_map too small.
Rm9yIFpGUyBLVkFfUEFHRVM9NTEyIHNlZW1zIHRvIHJ1biB2ZXJ5IHN0YWJsZSBzbyBpdCdzIHVu
Zm9ydHVuYXRlIHRoYXQgd2UKaGF2ZSB0byBnaXZlIHVwIG91ciBWQSBzcGFjZSBpbiB0aGUgdXNl
cmxhbmQuIEkgd291bGQgcGVyc29uYWxseSBsaWtlIHRvIHNlZQphIG1vdmUgdG8gYSA0LTQgTWVt
b3J5IG1vZGVsIG9yIGF0IGxlYXN0IGhhdmUgaXQgYXMgYSBjb21waWxlIHRpbWUgb3B0aW9uLgpE
b2VzIGFueW9uZSBrbm93IGlmIHRoYXQncyBiZWVuIGF0dGVtcHRlZCBvbiBGcmVlQlNEPwoKQWxp
CgpPbiAxMC85LzA3LCBQYXdlbCBKYWt1YiBEYXdpZGVrIDxwamRAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc+IHdyb3Rl
Ogo+Cj4gT24gVHVlLCBPY3QgMDksIDIwMDcgYXQg ...
| Oct 31, 8:51 am 2007 |
| Henrik Brix Andersen | Re: ZFS kmem_map too small.
Hi Pawel,
Here's a new debug session with the above requested information:
http://www.brixandersen.dk/tmp/zfs-rsync-debug.2.txt
As you can see, there were a couple of LORs before I entered the
debugger. At least one of these (the last one) appeared when trying to
list the files in one of the zfs filesystems, where rsync was hanging.
This is with RELENG_7 from Thu Oct 25 14:30:37 CEST 2007.
Regards,
Brix
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