Hello FreeBSD Gurus,
i am using FreeBSD for a quite few years and now getting problems with installation of applications as the "/" partition gets FULL!

Installations are like in this manner:-

" /  (5GB)

swap (4GB)

/var  (moer than 20GB)

/tmp ( 1GB)

/usr" (moer than 20GB)

 Now mz qestion is, why is it the "/ " Partion gets always filled with all stuff although there is plenty of space in "/usr"

 partion as well as "/var" ?
And how get rid of this menace and amed it?
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Sign it here:
http://www.petitiononline.com/0034655a/petition.html
The number of Adobe Flash sites are growing, and an increasing

amount of sites will simply cease to function when Flash is disabled

or unavailable. 
I would like to call to all web developers to (re)consider their use

of Flash, while it does have place on the web, it is often used in the

wrong way, on the wrong place, in a badly implemented manner. 
Why I dislike flash: 
o It often adds little or nothing to a website, most things can often

be achieved with either CSS or Javascript (or a combination) which

suffer from much less problems. 
o Flash is not usable, for example it often breaks the back button,

"find in page" does not work, setting font size does not work, and

many more. 
o Browser settings such as font size, enabling/disabled sound in web

pages etc. do not apply to flash, leaving the page's designer, not the

user, in control of the browser. 
o Flash is not accessible, screen readers, braille displays etc. often

have serious difficulty accessing flash pages. 
o Progressive enhancement is difficult to achieve with flash, unlike

for example CSS or Javascript, flash is binary data which interacts

poorly with HTML. 
o Flash is not supported on all operating systems, and only on a very

limited set of architectures. 
o Flash is slow, if you do not have a new $1000 PC but a somewhat

older "office PC" flash can be a serious performance hit. 
o There are a number of security issues with flash, and Adobe has

never seemed to quick/concerned to fix them. 
o Animation is annoying, I want to access information, not watch a

"cool" animation. 
Sincerely,

The Undersigned
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how much of the space in "/" is taken up by the "/home"

directory? (the "du" command should be able to help with

this). It's quite common to create a seperate /home partition

to avoid ordinary users being able to fill up the "/"

partition.
Patsy
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/home is often on its own partition with its own diskspace allocated.=20

Sometimes this is a link to /usr/home
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Can you please move this discussion to -questions, where it belongs?
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Indeed. I'm also particularly curious as to what method is being used

for software installation, i.e., FreeBSD packages, the ports system or

manual compile from source?
kmw
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On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:39:55 +0200
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Well, personally, I'd rather light a candle than curse the darkness, so...
Today, I fetched the repo sources for the "HEAD" version of gnash, built

and installed it, and I must say, it's working far better than the

latest release version (0.8.3).  Sites that wouldn't work properly

before are now displaying beautifully.  Here's a good example of a site

that would break before, but works now:
http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/units/addiction/drugs/mouse.cfm
See http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/#downloading for info on how to

obtain the sources.  You'll need to install devel/bazaar-ng (yes, yet

another version control system!) to fetch the code.
To configure, I ran "gnash -V" using the existing (0.8.3) version and

copied the configuration switches from the resulting output.  Then ran

gmake to build and install (after pkg_deleting the old version, of

course).
I'm pleased with the results.  Still not 100% perfect, but a whole heck

of a lot better.
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I checked out the flash at the University of Utah site, and I must say

it is impressive for gnash. Looks like that swf was made with Flash 7,

or at least that's its minimum requirement. Unfortunately, gnash has a

while to go, as it will never be in a satisfactory state until - it

loads YouTube videos. Yes, ridiculous, but true, since I'm sure that is

one of the many flash sites that people want to load. :(

-Ben
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On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 23:50:38 +0000
I've watched YouTube videos with Gnash, even with version 0.8.3.  Not

*all* of them worked, mind you, but quite a substantial number.
Here's one of my favorites (a real hoot, actually; a "translation", with

accompanying "visual aids", of what Joe Cocker was actually singing at

Woodstock) :-) :
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I've got 3 computers and gnash only works fairly well with youtube

videos on one of the computers (a laptop with an Intel 945GM, on

an ATI radeon mobility M7 7500 and a Matrox MGA G200 it does not).

Not sure why.  Some basic flash videos work fine in all 3, but

some flash files only work on the Intel 945GM-based laptop.

All 3 computers are running identical 8.0-current and ports

(all ports were built on one of the systems and packaged, then

installed on the other 2).  This is gnash-devel.
YMMV...
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Daniel Eischen <deischen@freebsd.org> wrote:

 > Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:

 > > nawcom <nawcom@nawcom.com> wrote:

 > > > I checked out the flash at the University of Utah site, and I must say

 > > > it is impressive for gnash. Looks like that swf was made with Flash 7,

 > > > or at least that's its minimum requirement. Unfortunately, gnash has a

 > > > while to go, as it will never be in a satisfactory state until - it

 > > > loads YouTube videos. Yes, ridiculous, but true, since I'm sure that is

 > > > one of the many flash sites that people want to load. :(

 > >

 > > I've watched YouTube videos with Gnash, even with version 0.8.3.  Not

 > > *all* of them worked, mind you, but quite a substantial number.

 > >

 > > Here's one of my favorites (a real hoot, actually; a "translation", with

 > > accompanying "visual aids", of what Joe Cocker was actually singing at

 > > Woodstock) :-) :

 > >

 > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4_MsrsKzMM

 >

 > I've got 3 computers and gnash only works fairly well with youtube

 > videos on one of the computers (a laptop with an Intel 945GM, on

 > an ATI radeon mobility M7 7500 and a Matrox MGA G200 it does not).

 > Not sure why.  Some basic flash videos work fine in all 3, but

 > some flash files only work on the Intel 945GM-based laptop.

 > All 3 computers are running identical 8.0-current and ports

 > (all ports were built on one of the systems and packaged, then

 > installed on the other 2).  This is gnash-devel.
Just in case this is useful for somebody ...  There is

a small conmmandline tool to download youtube videos:

ports/www/youtube_dl.  Given the URL it downloads the

video into a .flv file that can be played with mplayer

or other standalone video players.  Sure, it's not the

same as watching the video inside the browser page, but

it's better than nothing.
Best regards

   Oliver
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Thanks, for letting us know of the youtube_dl. Are there any updates to this thread, having improvements? I have gnash 0.8.3 and flash_plugin for mozilla but can't get sound to work 7.0-on RELEASE-p4. I'll just have to wait till someone comes up with a better solution. 
Conrad, how is what you described different than installing gnash from ports?:
"Today, I fetched the repo sources for the "HEAD" version of gnash, built

and installed it, and I must say, it's working far better than the

latest release version (0.8.3).  Sites that wouldn't work properly

before are now displaying beautifully.  Here's a good example of a site

that would break before, but works now:"

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There's also multimedia/clive, which works for a few other sites too (like

google video) and also does some other magic (Like recoding the video to mp4,

which works better in mplayer).
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On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 23:30:25 -0500
Hmmm, wouldn't you know, now it's not working.  :-(
I think I must have watched this one before in linux-firefox.
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Maybe I am missing something, but isn't the petition about getting

the FreeBSD desktop to be able to view flash sites (I hope so).  If

I am mistaken, I apologize for my OT spam.  I have a bunch of those

emails sitting in my box and I am just now bursting to make a

comment here.  I _really_ hope that some bounty gets paid or something

that implies that I will be able to do cvsup or patch or whatever
Oh dear.  This could be the intractable part of the problem for the

time being.  However, I fail to see how Adobe could continue with

this policy, as surely, nobody wants to be cracked (don't say "hacked"

hacking is the sound made by highly technical people when their fingers
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While I totally agree to the above statements, tell me the sense of an =20

online petition. Do you know a single petition that changed _anything_?

The petition is adressed "Web Designers". How should they get aware of =20

the petition?

You cannot change the internet with that. Every big commercial site =20

has flash. It's colorful, it's loud, it attracts the people to their =20

products. So you won't convince the webmaster of these sites to change.
Flash sucks but we can't avoid it. :-(

Of course it won't cause a paradigm shift, but it can be used to show

that many people/users are not at all impressed but annoyed with

"sleak" flash sites, which might just be enough to convince a few

people/sites.
Even if only manages to convince a few people .. Is it not worth your
Actually, that's not true, big commercial sites are usable because

more usability == more profit, and since flash != usable, flash ==

less profit.
Big sites like Amazon, Ebay, Google, Yahoo, etc. are all relatively

simple websites, it's true that quite a few websites from big

companies who's core business is not internet use flash, but this not

in those companies best interest either because usability == profit

etc.

I'm not sure why so many sites from big companies use flash, maybe

it's some bigshot suit who thinks he knows best or something...
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No.
Later,

Jason
(5 seconds worth there, dangit, i have to be more productive)

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That probably has a lot to do with it. I think it's often not so much the

actual webdesigners but rather their customers (i.e. the companies hiring

them) who request Flash because it looks good, not having a clue about its

disadvantages.
Alphons
P.S. There was a long thread about this subject on -questions not so long

ago, which can probably be found in the archives.
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