"It wouldn't be efficient for you to implement something new, only to have it criticized again. I'd suggest that you come up with a concrete design, describe to us what you propose to do and let's take it from there."
I'm testing out a new feature. In between each story, I'm posting an interesting, funny, insightful, or otherwise relevant quote from our mailing list archives. You can easily find context by clicking the source link (click the date in the quote attribution).
This is useful for a number of reasons: sometimes interesting things are said in threads that don't warrant a full story, sometimes it can be useful to draw attention to an interesting thread that hasn't reached its conclusion so about which I've not yet written an article, and sometimes I simply don't have time to fully summarize all discussions that I find interesting...
Hopefully it'll prove to be an enjoyable addition to your daily KernelTrap reading. If it's popular, I'll likely expand the functionality to accept user contributions, adding a voting system to determine which quotes end up appearing on the front page, applying concepts similar to many other popular websites. I'm also building an index of the quotes, so later it would be trivial to review lists of quotes from your favorite kernel developers, or your favorite kernel development mailing lists...
Heh, I actually didn't notice the contrast issue as obviously I'd already clicked the links before I was able to post the quote... ;) Thanks for drawing this to my attention.
I've updated the CSS to make the links stand out in the quotes, however you'll probably have to do a forced reload of the front page so your browser updates from its cached version. (ie, ctrl-reload, or the equivalent in your browser).
I am not quite sure about your choice of colors. This dark/reddish brown color is exclusively used for links almost everywhere else on the KernelTrap opening page. But now all of a sudden, the quotes are in dark brown, and the link within the quote post is green. This is green-link scheme is used on the mailing list view as well, but I didn't notice that earlier because they are consistent on a single page.
I would suggest using green for the quotes, but this might be problematic because the green color looks like it's too bright for some contrast levels. But the normal black color wouldn't make them stand out from normal articles.
Anyway, this was just a brain dump, perhaps you can recover something workable from it.
The sad truth is that I lack any skills in the theming department. The growing inconsistencies in the KernelTrap theme have been introduced by me as I've slowly hacked and edited the theme I had professionally created. Ideally at some point in the relatively near future I'll be able to hire a professional themer to fix things.
I'm tentatively aiming to introduce a new theme around the first of next year. Until then, we'll have to limp by on my limited theming abilities, attempting to keep things reasonably usable.
In any case, I agree that the colors are confusing being inconsistent. Quotes are now in the same black text as stories. You may have to force-reload the page to get the updated CSS.
Is it possible to change the stylesheet to 'unhide' the link. I saw a previous similar story (a Linus comment) and wanted more context but never realized this was a link (viewed on an LCD in Firefox).
Yeah, my bad. As noted above I've updated the CSS to make the links visible. Do a forced-reload in your browser to update to the latest CSS and you should then clearly see the links.
Huh?
What did Andrew Morton say this *about*?
Quotes
I'm testing out a new feature. In between each story, I'm posting an interesting, funny, insightful, or otherwise relevant quote from our mailing list archives. You can easily find context by clicking the source link (click the date in the quote attribution).
This is useful for a number of reasons: sometimes interesting things are said in threads that don't warrant a full story, sometimes it can be useful to draw attention to an interesting thread that hasn't reached its conclusion so about which I've not yet written an article, and sometimes I simply don't have time to fully summarize all discussions that I find interesting...
Hopefully it'll prove to be an enjoyable addition to your daily KernelTrap reading. If it's popular, I'll likely expand the functionality to accept user contributions, adding a voting system to determine which quotes end up appearing on the front page, applying concepts similar to many other popular websites. I'm also building an index of the quotes, so later it would be trivial to review lists of quotes from your favorite kernel developers, or your favorite kernel development mailing lists...
It's cute
I *did* miss the article link though:
"an October 17, 2007 posting" <- doesn't have visual distinction until it's been visited, when it turns grey.
Fixed
Heh, I actually didn't notice the contrast issue as obviously I'd already clicked the links before I was able to post the quote... ;) Thanks for drawing this to my attention.
I've updated the CSS to make the links stand out in the quotes, however you'll probably have to do a forced reload of the front page so your browser updates from its cached version. (ie, ctrl-reload, or the equivalent in your browser).
I am not quite sure about
I am not quite sure about your choice of colors. This dark/reddish brown color is exclusively used for links almost everywhere else on the KernelTrap opening page. But now all of a sudden, the quotes are in dark brown, and the link within the quote post is green. This is green-link scheme is used on the mailing list view as well, but I didn't notice that earlier because they are consistent on a single page.
I would suggest using green for the quotes, but this might be problematic because the green color looks like it's too bright for some contrast levels. But the normal black color wouldn't make them stand out from normal articles.
Anyway, this was just a brain dump, perhaps you can recover something workable from it.
themes
The sad truth is that I lack any skills in the theming department. The growing inconsistencies in the KernelTrap theme have been introduced by me as I've slowly hacked and edited the theme I had professionally created. Ideally at some point in the relatively near future I'll be able to hire a professional themer to fix things.
I'm tentatively aiming to introduce a new theme around the first of next year. Until then, we'll have to limp by on my limited theming abilities, attempting to keep things reasonably usable.
In any case, I agree that the colors are confusing being inconsistent. Quotes are now in the same black text as stories. You may have to force-reload the page to get the updated CSS.
Much bettah
Much bettah now!
thanks!
BTW, Though the site design is nothing to write home about, it certainly not terrible either. I <3 KT.
Is it possible to change the
Is it possible to change the stylesheet to 'unhide' the link. I saw a previous similar story (a Linus comment) and wanted more context but never realized this was a link (viewed on an LCD in Firefox).
force reload
Yeah, my bad. As noted above I've updated the CSS to make the links visible. Do a forced-reload in your browser to update to the latest CSS and you should then clearly see the links.
Keep up the good work
Keep up the good work Jeremy!
Nice to see kerneltrap 'alive'...