"Let's all take a deep breath and relax, ok? A patch was aggressively presented and aggressively NAKed. Let's not get our bowels in an uproar over it. Nothing to see here folks, move along..."
This thread is a good indication that the quality of Linux is going down the drain. The attitude that people who add functionality should be placed on a pedestal vis a vis the people who fix their broken functionality with "trivial" patches is a fairly disturbing one.
If you can be bothered to write a comment, please read the entire thread and not just the KernelTrap quote.
Of course people get pissed off if someone describes their code as "broken" -- yes it has had minor bugs that were quickly resolved, and the feature is already explicitly marked EXPERIMENTAL. Perhaps not entirely stable yet, but it sure as hell is not broken.
This is probably the most aggressive thread I've seen on the linux kernel. Adrian Bunk, a seemingly senior kernel developer, got flamed hard on LKML by Ingo and others. It's the worst type: they are questioning the technical level of another developer who is (supposedly) very experienced. It turned out he does not have so much real experience after all. Adrian admitted later that he is just a bookkeeping/QA guy.
>This is probably the most aggressive thread I've seen on the linux kernel. Adrian
>Bunk, a seemingly senior kernel developer, got flamed hard on LKML by Ingo and >others.
Seemingly senior kernel developer? Seemingly to whom? I have never seen Adrian misrepresent what he does/knows and what he does not. It is pointless on an open forum.
>It's the worst type: they are questioning the technical level of another >developer who is (supposedly) very experienced. It turned out he does not have so >much real experience after all.
He does, but not at coding as such.
>Adrian admitted later that he is just a bookkeeping/QA guy.
_Just_ a bookkeeping/QA guy? There are a lot of people on lkml who care less than Adrian about quality and process improvements. I think kernel development needs all the help in that regard.
> Seemingly senior kernel developer? Seemingly to whom?
To Ingo, for one? Otherwise he'd not be shocked to find out what he found out.
> I have never seen Adrian misrepresent what he does/knows and what he does not.
Nobody said Adrian misrepresented anything intentionally. But I've seen him on LKML for many many years, sending out patches that normally only major contributors do (like, removing stuff from the kernel).
> He does, but not at coding as such.
I for one agree that coding is not the only important contribution one might make, but unfortunately, in real life (and on LKML especially) it's one thing that matters. If you do not actually write code, you are not taken very seriously.
> _Just_ a bookkeeping/QA guy?
I am merely quoting what Adrian said himself.
"I am not a coder."
"I am just a cleanup and QA guy."
I think you are over sensitive. I am not judging Adrian but only stating the facts.
This thread is a good
This thread is a good indication that the quality of Linux is going down the drain. The attitude that people who add functionality should be placed on a pedestal vis a vis the people who fix their broken functionality with "trivial" patches is a fairly disturbing one.
If you can be bothered to
If you can be bothered to write a comment, please read the entire thread and not just the KernelTrap quote.
Of course people get pissed off if someone describes their code as "broken" -- yes it has had minor bugs that were quickly resolved, and the feature is already explicitly marked EXPERIMENTAL. Perhaps not entirely stable yet, but it sure as hell is not broken.
Bowels in an uproar?
That's some interesting imagery. :-)
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Fierce thread
This is probably the most aggressive thread I've seen on the linux kernel. Adrian Bunk, a seemingly senior kernel developer, got flamed hard on LKML by Ingo and others. It's the worst type: they are questioning the technical level of another developer who is (supposedly) very experienced. It turned out he does not have so much real experience after all. Adrian admitted later that he is just a bookkeeping/QA guy.
Adrian's OK
>This is probably the most aggressive thread I've seen on the linux kernel. Adrian
>Bunk, a seemingly senior kernel developer, got flamed hard on LKML by Ingo and >others.
Seemingly senior kernel developer? Seemingly to whom? I have never seen Adrian misrepresent what he does/knows and what he does not. It is pointless on an open forum.
>It's the worst type: they are questioning the technical level of another >developer who is (supposedly) very experienced. It turned out he does not have so >much real experience after all.
He does, but not at coding as such.
>Adrian admitted later that he is just a bookkeeping/QA guy.
_Just_ a bookkeeping/QA guy? There are a lot of people on lkml who care less than Adrian about quality and process improvements. I think kernel development needs all the help in that regard.
Take a breath
> Seemingly senior kernel developer? Seemingly to whom?
To Ingo, for one? Otherwise he'd not be shocked to find out what he found out.
> I have never seen Adrian misrepresent what he does/knows and what he does not.
Nobody said Adrian misrepresented anything intentionally. But I've seen him on LKML for many many years, sending out patches that normally only major contributors do (like, removing stuff from the kernel).
> He does, but not at coding as such.
I for one agree that coding is not the only important contribution one might make, but unfortunately, in real life (and on LKML especially) it's one thing that matters. If you do not actually write code, you are not taken very seriously.
> _Just_ a bookkeeping/QA guy?
I am merely quoting what Adrian said himself.
"I am not a coder."
"I am just a cleanup and QA guy."
I think you are over sensitive. I am not judging Adrian but only stating the facts.
Aggressively NAKed?
It doesn't matter how I read it, either way it reminds me of my college days...